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Caucasian 01-02-2013 04:05 PM

lager yeast for cider
 
Has anyone tried using a lager yeast for cider making? I'm planning on brewing a schwarzbier and might make a big enough starter to have some extra yeast. I've made ciders with american 2, champagne yeast, white wine and now want to try lager yeast.

kingboomer 01-02-2013 05:07 PM

I'm pretty sure this came up before without many replies. FWIW I'm going to be making a graff with a lager yeast soon for the summer. Give it a shot and keep us posted!


-Kingboomer

LeBreton 01-02-2013 09:51 PM

People use lager yeast all the time for cider, works great!

toddcady 02-01-2013 02:09 PM

Lager yeast for cider
 
I have a local cider company that produces non-homogenized cider by the gallon. I'll usually drink 1/4 of the cider, then leave it in the fridge till it starts to bulge. It is a daily ritual to crack open the lid, squeeze the air out and retighten the lid.
The yeast that is the most dominant provides a very crisp, clean taste after a few weeks. I add sugar, shake it up and let it set again for another month, squeezing CO2 out as needed. It reminds me of a mix between Martinelli's sparkling cider and the original Hornsby's 'green' draft cider.

This is just using the natural yeast of unpasteurized cider. I'd like to try a lager yeast pitched with intention.

I guess I could culture this one and use it on a new gallon, effectively 'pitching' a higher cell count and speeding the process.

Any recommendations or favorites of Lager yeasts?

liquiditynerd 02-05-2013 02:27 PM

I've had great success with saflager 23. I only lagered it a month though. Very clean crisp taste.

aryoung1980 04-04-2013 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by liquiditynerd
I've had great success with saflager 23. I only lagered it a month though. Very clean crisp taste.

I have S-23, an empty carboy, and a crap load of Martinelli's Sparkling Cider. I guess I know what I'm making next.

liquiditynerd 04-04-2013 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by aryoung1980

I have S-23, an empty carboy, and a crap load of Martinelli's Sparkling Cider. I guess I know what I'm making next.

Go get em! I'm switching over to ales for spring/summer. I really liked how clean crisp and clear it came out, can't wait until I do it again. Maybe fall unless we move up north.

CRock303 04-05-2013 12:30 AM

I have one going with S-23 right now it has some interesting fruit flavors, I detected peach. I threw some hops in last night to dry hop for a week before I stabilize and keg it. It's a cleaner flavor than an ale yeast if you insist on using beer yeast. I'd probably use it again if I wanted to use something other than wine yeast.

Zider 04-24-2013 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Caucasian (Post 4738074)
Has anyone tried using a lager yeast for cider making? I'm planning on brewing a schwarzbier and might make a big enough starter to have some extra yeast. I've made ciders with american 2, champagne yeast, white wine and now want to try lager yeast.

so...how did it go?

aryoung1980 05-25-2013 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Zider

so...how did it go?

I can't speak for the OP but I took his idea and ran with it. I pitched S-23 into 5 gallons of Martinell's Sparkling Cider (I degrassed it first) in early April. I haphazardly followed the Graham's English Cider recipe http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f81/grah...-cider-107152/ and after 7 weeks in primary it has a dry finish and very clear. It is a little light in the body with a white wine nose and some hotness is detectable. I racked it into secondary today and will let it sit another 4-8 weeks before sampling and bottling to round out the rough edges. My OG/FG was 1.062 / 1.008. That puts this cider around 7% ABV and an apparent attenuation of 87%. I guess what I'm trying to say is, if you want to use a lager yeast in cider go for it!


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