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Old 02-17-2013, 06:07 PM   #1
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Hey all, I recently moved to Kuwait and wouldn't you know, it is a dry country where alcohol is illegal. Sure, I can buy from the black market but is a bottle of jack daniels (0.750, the small one) worth 150 dollars? As a result, I have decided to attempt to make my own cider. However, many of the recipes for cider and beer and whatnot ask for recipes and equipment I can not obtain such as a Crystal, special kind of yeasts and a fermenter to name a few. Anyone know of any basic recipes and instructions on how a noobie like me can obtain and create my own brew in a country that does not have any homebrewing stores and whatnot? Thanks guys!

Also, funny thing is that they are pretty strict that they even banned this site from access. I had to use a proxy changer to access it!

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Old 02-17-2013, 06:16 PM   #2
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Something as simple as bread yeast and preservative free apple juice would get you started. It won't be the best beverage, but it will at least do the trick. You could even dissolve in some sugar to boost the ABV. There are plenty of Youtube Videos on homemade wine and lots of articles listed on this site about methods.

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Old 02-17-2013, 06:39 PM   #3
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Preservative free apple juice is ideal but any juice will work. It can be as simple as sprinkling some bread yeast in a gallon of apple juice and let it ferment at room temp for at least a week. Make sure to keep the cap loose so CO2 can escape or just cover the top with foil.

You may also check out Welch's 100% Juices as they make some fine fermentables.

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Old 02-17-2013, 06:43 PM   #4
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Having lived for a good long (semi) dry spell in Kuwait, I know your pain. You have already discovered two things: They are serious about keeping things dry, and there is a thriving black-market. Drinking Kuwaitis have a taste for expensive liquor and many of them are ridiculously rich, thus the $150.00 Jack.

Advice part 1) Get to know some Kuwaiti soldiers. Some of them might be hard-liners (ie. officers) but I assure you there are plenty of hard drinking enlisted boys (as in every military on earth... ever). They can get you some cheap, horrid stuff. To call it moonshine would be a disservice to the fine boys in the hollars making corn liquor, but its kinda like moonshine. Some TCNs might be able to help you, but they would be putting themselves at a pretty big risk.

advice part 2) if you know someone that can order dry ale and champagne yeast in another country and send them to you (perhaps in a sanitized bread yeast container?) I would do so. Bread yeast is pretty yucky and getting some Nottingham and EC1118 would make your life much easier.

advice part 3) read the Lambic and Wild yeast forum. there are tons of fruits, including apples and grapes, you can easily get your hands on for pretty cheap. Wild apple yeasts, as I understand--no experience--has the potential to be quite good.

good luck

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I saw a great little website how too cultivate wild yeast. Can't find it right now. But idea is using ball mason jars and drill then grommet the hole for an airlock. You get apples right off the tree, don't wash them and chop them up and add water. The wild yeast will thrive. Then you can wash the yeast and add it to your primary. I also saw a blind taste test were wild yeast cider beat everything. It might be sweeter and lower ABV than champagne yeast but at least it won't taste like bread or beer.

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Old 02-17-2013, 07:12 PM   #6
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Thank you guys so much for your comment, so you are telling me, I can just put normal yeast on a glass jar with a gallon of apple juice and that could work? What does the ratio of yeast to per gallon has to be and also how long before I can drink the brew itself exactly? Also, it gets really hot here so room temperature may be a problem, does the increase in temperature really effect it that much?

@Unferth, thanks for the tips buddy. At least you feel my pain haha!

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if you can buy the juice already in a plastic container that would be best, then you'd just need to dump yeast into it. (A tablespoon of dry yeast would probably be fine) The cooler you can keep it the best. Below 70ºF and above 58ºF. If your temps are well above this, then putting the fermenter in a bucket of water with a frozen water bottle could help maintain lower temps.

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but then if i have to slightly let the cap open for CO2 gases to escape, wouldnt H2O be getting in the bottle if I do that? Also, how long should I keep it fermented for? could i keep it in a fridge?

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Look for the Ed's Apfelwein recipe. Apple juice, sugar(optional) and yeast.

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Just add water about 1/3 to 1/2 way up the side of the fermentor. It shouldn't float...just have some water to chill it. You can always use a ballon or a condom with a hole poked in the end instead of loosening the cap as an alternative.

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