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Old 10-09-2009, 05:25 AM   #21
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I like it dry, and several of my friends like it that way. Even the girlfriend likes it dry however she has commented that she wouldnt mind it a little sweeter. If you cold crash you cant bottle carb can you? If I use an ale yeast would it ferment sweeter?

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Old 10-09-2009, 05:32 AM   #22
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One other question. I have a theory. I was going to buy a temp controler and a freezer to create a fermenting chamber. My house is at about 20 degrees (celcius...I'm Canadian Eh) so for wine or ale yeast I think is perfect but I would have my carboys in the freezer in the basement. I would set the controler to hold at 20 degrees which means I would assume the freezer would rarely come on, but at least I know it would hold at 20 degrees. Once I get to the point that I want to cold crash it I just dial it down to fridge temperature. Would this work considering the fact it would take the freezer some time to get down to that temp? How long once the correct "cold crashing" temp is reached would it take to actually cold crash it?

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Old 10-09-2009, 06:10 AM   #23
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Yep, if you cold crash, you cant bottle carbonate - you'd have to keg carb. That's the catch - but if you have kegs then no problem.

Yes ale yeast ferment sweeter - they can go fairly dry, but dry for an ale yeast is 1.000 or 1.002. They are also a lot easier to stop with cold crashing.

I think what you are proposing would work but I'm not sure. My basement temps are usually 15-20C and the fridge is just above 0C. It usually takes 24 hours to get nice and clear. Wild yeast ferments sometimes take longer as does pasteurized juice. I'm not sure if its the absolute temp or the sudden drop in temp that causes everything to clear

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Old 10-09-2009, 10:17 PM   #24
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Some images...this is roughly 24hours since starting. Everything look ok?

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Old 10-09-2009, 10:22 PM   #25
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that is pretty much what mine looked like, if you don't see some activity in the next few days then I'd start to worry.

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Old 10-09-2009, 10:24 PM   #26
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well while i took the pics I did see a single bubble pass the airlock....so that gave me some hope. Should I see more activity in 24hrs?

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looking good!

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Old 10-10-2009, 02:46 AM   #28
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Thanks for posting pics of your setup. I plan start my first 5-6 gallon batch in the next week, so I will be following your progress. Good luck!

One observation/comment. Considering your head space, have you considered putting a blowoff tube on your vapor lock, in case things really get active? Looks like you have a concrete floor, so a mess won't be a big deal. My first attempt was with 1 gallon jugs, with only slightly less head space than you have, and both got active enough to froth out of the vapor locks and make a sticky mess on the jugs and table. (With my limited experience, I don't know if that is normal or not, but one of my yeasts was S-04. YMMV.)

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Old 10-10-2009, 02:58 AM   #29
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didn't think it would get that active. I'll put a lid under it just incase.

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Old 10-10-2009, 06:44 AM   #30
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went to movies and saw Toy Story 1 & 2 as a double feature in 3D....I highly recommend it!

came back and THIS was going on!!!!! (about 8-9 hours since last images)




So now im going to do as ChrisM suggested and place some sort of mat underneath the carboy just incase of overflow-age.

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