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Stauffbier 08-25-2012 02:49 PM

Hard Apple Cider advice please!
 
Howdy Folks!

Forgive me, but I also posted this question on the thread mentioned here-in to try and get a quick response.....

I have a bunch of fresh apples that I just picked, and I want to make something similar to this recipe http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f81/dave...56/index9.html . All I have is Safale S-04... Any thoughts on using that instead of Notti? I also have Red Star, Cote des Blancs and Assmanhausen (crazy name!) Dry wine yeast, but I really don't want a dry, high octane wine. I'd really rather have something a little sweeter with a lower ABV, so I'm hoping the S-04 will work. My LHBS is out of Notti, and these apples need to be processed today before going bad...

Thanks for any advice!
Mike

JtotheA 08-25-2012 03:05 PM

I love S-04! In fact I can't determine if I like Notty or S-04 better but those are the main two I use.

agent44 08-25-2012 03:07 PM

I wish I could help you I've never used any of those yeasts for cider, I've just got my hands on some Notty, I had to special order it here. I've used coopers brewing yeast and it had pretty good results

Stauffbier 08-25-2012 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JtotheA (Post 4360632)
I love S-04! In fact I can't determine if I like Notty or S-04 better but those are the main two I use.

When you say they are the main two that you use, do you mean for cider? Or beer?


I've used both for beer a number of times, but never for cider...

JtotheA 08-25-2012 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stauffbier (Post 4360679)
When you say they are the main two that you use, do you mean for cider? Or beer?


I've used both for beer a number of times, but never for cider...

Strictly for cider.

CRock303 08-25-2012 06:00 PM

I've used both and I like US-04 better it leaves less of a yeasty ale flavor than the Notty. I'm not a beer drinker so neither of them are things I'm going to use going forward, but they both get the job done for cider.

Stauffbier 08-25-2012 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JtotheA (Post 4360684)
Strictly for cider.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CRock303 (Post 4361008)
I've used both and I like US-04 better it leaves less of a yeasty ale flavor than the Notty. I'm not a beer drinker so neither of them are things I'm going to use going forward, but they both get the job done for cider.

Awesome! Thanks!

icanbenchurcat 08-25-2012 06:50 PM

Won't the S-04 ferment it out to dryness, too?
I am not experienced with this yeast; I usually use wine yeast and make applejack or apple wine.

I prefer mine dry, so never considered using an ale yeast or back-sweetening, but does this work?

Stauffbier 08-25-2012 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by icanbenchurcat (Post 4361072)
Won't the S-04 ferment it out to dryness, too?
I am not experienced with this yeast; I usually use wine yeast and make applejack or apple wine.

I prefer mine dry, so never considered using an ale yeast or back-sweetening, but does this work?

I believe a wine yeast will attenuate more than the S-04, but I'm really just guessing on that. People do indeed back sweeten. If you read the thread in the link I posted above, you'll see where lots of people have done it. A few had issues with bottle bombs, but I'm hoping I'll be ok. I don't plan on using quite as much sugar concentrate when I bottle, so I think it will be ok. I should mention, I've never made cider. I've only made wine and beer..

JtotheA 08-25-2012 11:38 PM

Wine yeasts are typically "hard to get rid" of by racking in my experience with them. Notty and S-04 are considered higher flocculating so they're easier to carefully rack off of.


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