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Old 04-11-2014, 06:49 AM   #21
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Kirkland apple juice are delicious.

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Old 04-11-2014, 07:24 AM   #22
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Well I assume it's because the water molecules freeze and burst the skin of the fruit and make the sugar easier to ferment. Also should lower the chance of mold?
In other news why doesn't cherry concentrate exist? I demand cherry flavored everything!!

Lol, not really, here's my long drawn out explanation

It all comes down to corporate standards... When you get produce from a big store, I have bad knees for you, your produce is probably close to 2 weeks to a month old already, when it gets to the store, because of packaging and shipping, and all that nonsense... Well, farmers try to compensate this by picking fruit before it's ready, so it can ripen on the way to the store. This boils down to organic chemistry that I will not bore you with, but basically, it's like trying to run a car on a 1/8th of a gallon of gas. Sure it may run, but your not getting very far... It's not getting the nutrients it needs anymore, and it will convert the sugars it has, so it tastes right, but that doesn't mean your getting everything out of it. With frozen stuff, they're frozen ripe, so they taste like ripe stuff. Since they've grown their entire life on the plant, they have way more nutrients inside of them, contain way more sugar, and are better for brewing because you'll get more of an actual fruit flavor. Now if you can find a farmers market where you can get stuff fresh, do that, but if your in a store, frozen > fresh. Plus, as a rule of thumb, I always freeze fruit before I brew with it, because it makes it squishy and way easier to mash, and if your using hot liquid, frozen fruit drops it in a hurry. So you were right when talking about that. And yes, the low temps make a lot of critters leave.

With your other news, I completely agree, I wish they had just concentrate of everything seperated, instead of all mixed together, like come on really, you have cherry banana sunrise (cherry, banana, oj, and grapefruit) but I can't have just cherry??? What really got me the one day was when I found 100% pomegranate juice! They had just pomegranate juice... It was almost $9 for a 1/4 of a gallon container if not smaller. That's $36 dollars a gallon...


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Old 04-11-2014, 09:27 AM   #23
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In Michigan. Apparently we don't believe in good apple juice unless it's October.
Trader joes, kroger, meijer, aldis, walmart, whole foods (probably expensive).

Suggestions? Amazon maybe? Idk
Where in Michigan do you live? I live near Holland and the cidery in Spring Lake will fill your carboy with juice for cider fairly cheap.
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Old 04-11-2014, 10:30 PM   #24
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I trained for a ultra-marathon last year (30 miles on my 30th birthday) and I researched that Tart Cherry juice is an excellent anti-inflammatory. I bought mine at GNC and mixed it with water to have on my long runs.

It's just how the Vikings like their women: strong and cheap!

http://www.gnc.com/Dynamic-Health-Ta...ductId=3993793

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Old 04-11-2014, 10:39 PM   #25
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Mott's. Only has ascorbic acid added. It's about $4/gal at Wally World.
i have found motts to be the best. and it usually is the cheepest
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Old 04-11-2014, 11:39 PM   #26
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I trained for a ultra-marathon last year (30 miles on my 30th birthday) and I researched that Tart Cherry juice is an excellent anti-inflammatory. I bought mine at GNC and mixed it with water to have on my long runs.

It's just how the Vikings like their women: strong and cheap!

http://www.gnc.com/Dynamic-Health-Ta...ductId=3993793
Holy !#%= that's $136 a gallon without tax... I wonder how many cherries they had to juice to make just 16 oz...
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Old 04-12-2014, 12:18 AM   #27
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I just back sweetened mine with dynamic health black cherry concentrate, can be found on amazon, and tastes pretty good, needs to age a bit though. Great deal right now as an add-on item, usually almost double this price
Dynamic Health Concentrate, Black Cherry, 16-Ounce by Dynamic Health http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000QVDJ10/..._5Fhstb1ESPM5J


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Holy !#%= that's $136 a gallon without tax... I wonder how many cherries they had to juice to make just 16 oz...
I've been using quarts of organic store brand cherry juice from Kroger (available from QFC & Fred Meyer stores too) or Trader Joes blended in a few of my apple cider batches. If one is careful it is possible to find preservative free un-blended juice, finding cherry that isn't from concentrate is more challenging but possible. The juice is running $5-$7 per 32oz or $20-$28 per gallon. I've been adding three quarts in a 3gal. primary and topping with a fourth quart after i rack the first time.
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Old 04-12-2014, 08:25 PM   #29
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Well I assume it's because the water molecules freeze and burst the skin of the fruit and make the sugar easier to ferment. Also should lower the chance of mold?
In other news why doesn't cherry concentrate exist? I demand cherry flavored everything!!

Google cherry lane concentrate. It's $20+ a bottle (think it's a 1litre bottle). Made for a great cherry oatmeal stout...


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Sams Club house brand apple juice (from concentrate, only ascorbic acid added) 2-96oz bottles for less than $4. Use it all the time. I have also added 5lbs of Sams Club frozen black cherries (after simmering on the stove to pasteurize) to the secondary of a batch and they were good too.

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