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Old 04-25-2012, 10:10 PM   #1
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I froze 1/2 gallon of my mulled/spiced cider. Prefrozen it was a bit on the spicy side.
Postfrozen it is really spicy. I am going to let it age for awhile see what happens.

The quart jar was obviously the first qt thawed and the 1/2 gal jar was the second.

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Pumbaa, we don't lock these. Freeze concentration is legal, as far as we can tell. It is valid discussion and allowed here at HBT. Please, no further discussion on legal aspects (or worthless comments about thread closure). If you want to explore the legality issues, start a new thread.

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I did this as a learning experiment. The biggest thing I learned thus far is that it really concentrates the flavors. I am anxious to see how it works with a more subtle cider. I have
6 1/2 gal of plain cyser to bottle this weekend, I am going to freeze some of that.

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The color difference is interesting, I wouldn't have thought it would be so dramatic. Was there a taste difference between the two? I just started making hard cider and I'm interested in trying to make some applejack at some point too.

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The color difference is interesting, I wouldn't have thought it would be so dramatic. Was there a taste difference between the two? I just started making hard cider and I'm interested in trying to make some applejack at some point too.
Definitely............the clear one basically tasted like water.

I am going to try putting an ounce of med toast oak chips in the jar this weekend to see if that helps mellow it out.

Think of eating a snow cone. All of the concentrate melts out first and you are basically left with a ball of plain ole ice at the end. This worked pretty much the same.
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Ive heard a lot about freeze concentrate causing terrible headaches and hangovers. Any personal experience?

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Roadymi,

Would you be willing to share a little of your process for the freezing? What temperature did you freeze to? How long? How much slush?

Your end product seems a lot clearer that most of what I've seen and I've got a keg of dopplebock that's just begging to be eis'd.

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Roadymi,

Would you be willing to share a little of your process for the freezing? What temperature did you freeze to? How long? How much slush?

Your end product seems a lot clearer that most of what I've seen and I've got a keg of dopplebock that's just begging to be eis'd.
Pretty simple:
*Filled plastic 1/2 gallon apple juice container about 90% full
*Left cap loose just in case
*Placed in my home freezer that's digital readout says 0 F
*Left it for a couple of days, it was pretty well frozen solid.
*Took it out and placed upside down over a quart jar and let it drip.
*When the first quart was full, placed it over the 2nd jar. By now the remaining ice was pretty clear.
*What drained into the 2nd jar was pretty much flavorless.

I'm not a scientist so I don't know the technical terms but basically everything in the cider has a lower melting point than water so the alcohol, sugar, and the appley (prob not a word) goodness melt first. Think back to eating sno-cones as a kid. the first 1/2 was great because it was loaded with flavor. By the end all you had left was shaved ice.
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Thanks,

That seems simple. Plenty of details for me.

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