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PitsPale 08-02-2009 10:31 PM

First Cider attempt - Check my recipie please!
 
So my buddy has been hounding me to make a cider - I'm not much of a fan but he is.

This being August, choices for fresh cider aren't great, so I picked up 5 gallons of Zeigler's (sp?) and used it.

It was THEN I noticed that Zeigler's is pasteurized, but then again so is Tree Top and all the other brands the store has.

Will I be okay?

Here's my recipie:

5 gallons Zeigler's cider
1 lb brown sugar
Wyeast Cider Yeast.

How will this turn out?

Andy

Poindexter 08-02-2009 10:41 PM

Pasteurized is OK, what you want is apple juice with no yeast killing preservatives in it.

I am pretty sure Wyeast says the cider yeast needs some nutrient. You might drop in a quarter teaspoon of yeast nutrient if there seems to be some trouble.

If your friend doesn't like it just leave it on a shelf in a closet for six months or so and then let him try it again.

PitsPale 08-02-2009 11:12 PM

Ok - added a bit of the Wyeast nutrient. We'll see how we do.

That said - should I plan on kegging/force carbing this?

Andy

BrothersBrewing 08-03-2009 12:10 AM

sounds good to me..

You will want to taste quite frequently to make sure it doesn't get to dry...

PitsPale 08-03-2009 12:15 AM

How do I keep it sweet? Crash cool the fermenter?

ldgenius2000 08-03-2009 05:24 PM

All of the Zeigler's I have seen also has preservatives. Did you find a style without?

coffeegod 08-04-2009 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PitsPale (Post 1466063)
How do I keep it sweet? Crash cool the fermenter?

I have to kill off the yeasties with pot. sorbate? and then back sweeten with a can or 2 of apple juice concentrate

Yooper 08-04-2009 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coffeegod (Post 1468312)
I have to kill off the yeasties with pot. sorbate? and then back sweeten with a can or 2 of apple juice concentrate

Well, after fermentation is finished, you can stabilize with campden and sorbate. They work better when you use them together. You don't actually kill the yeast that way- but sorbate inhibits yeast reproduction. So, they are still there, but can't reproduce so fermentation shouldn't restart. After that, you can add sweetener to taste- honey, apple juice, sugar, etc. You can't bottle carbonate cider after you stabilize, though. You can make a sweet still cider or a carbonated dry cider easily, but if you want to carbonate a sweet cider you have to use unfermentable sweeteners like lactose.


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