I just tasted my latest experiment...started with 5 gal cider, 1/2 lb. buckwheat honey, 1lb. wildflower honey, 2#brown sugar and 3 packs Safale SO4. The idea was to not use preservatives or heat to knock down the wild yeast, but rather overwhelm them with superior *********-it appears to have worked. Its been fermenting since turkey day, so a little over 3 weeks. It has reached sg 1.01 and is in the neighborhood of 8% abv. Its sweet, fruity and tastes like flowers...in other words, its freakin' awesome! It still has that young flavor that is somewhat flat and beery, but you can taste the potential. I'm going to cold crash it (hurray for December) and rack it on top of 4 packs of crushed sterilized cranberries and leave it for probably 2 weeks or so. I'll post the results in a couple weeks probably by starting a new post, as this one will probably have grown so large that it may get lost for anyone who might be interested in benefiting from it in some way. Next week I'm starting a batch aimed at high ABV all from honey with premier cuvee yeast, flavored with some oak chips. Again, I won't sterilize in any way and I will post the results.