Kegconnection Complete Starter Kit and More Giveaway!


Home Brew Forums > Wine, Mead, Cider, Sake & Soda > Cider Forum > Complete rookies.... help!

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 10-25-2012, 09:26 AM   #1
ShazzyShizzazy
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 2
Default Complete rookies.... help!

We wanted to try brew our own Cider... we found this amazing site and read a few post then just decided to dive in. Now we have a couple of questions from the gurus...

First a little run down...
we bought 12 liters of yummy apple juice from the supermarket.
re-hydrated EC-1118 yeast and pitched it.
Unfortunately (foolishly) we did not add any extra sugar and did not take an OG reading.
It fermented slow and steady then after 2 weeks it had cleared so we racked it and topped the headspace with 720ml more juice.
We have left it to bulk age and now want to back-sweeten, bottle and allow to carbonate before pasteurizing.

My questions are:

*How much juice should be added for back-sweetening and allowing further bottle carbonation??? (dont want it very sweet just want to take the dry 'edge' off if that makes sense, also hope this will give it a little more flavour as the champ yeast seems to have left it a little bland)

*Is there any way for us to determine the ABV without an OG??? We did take a hydrometer reading but because we are such amateurs we took it after we had pitched the yeast... even then it was very low 1.042

any guidance is much appreciated

__________________
ShazzyShizzazy is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-25-2012, 12:34 PM   #2
joeybeer
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 524
Liked 11 Times on 11 Posts
Likes Given: 27

Default

Since you didn't add anything, you could just buy another bottle of juice and find the OG, but I'll be willing to bet it was 1.052 !

__________________

Kegged :
15 gallons of Yellow Bucket Light
~1 gallon of Little Miss Muffet Cider

Fermenter :
12 gallons of Under Pressure Brown Ale
5 gallons of Dead Guyish IPA for a competition

joeybeer is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-25-2012, 12:49 PM   #3
LeBreton
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Finger Lakes, NY
Posts: 1,100
Liked 94 Times on 82 Posts
Likes Given: 3

Default

^what he said.

When it comes to backsweetening & priming, I suggest first adding in your backsweetening. You can easily do this to taste by adding just a bit at a time until the desired level is reached. Then, on top of that add your priming sugar, which should raise the SG by 0.003-0.004. Then follow the pasteurization sticky as normal.

__________________
Bellwether Hard Cider
In all the states no door stands wider,
To ask you in to drink hard cider
LeBreton is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-08-2012, 03:26 AM   #4
ShazzyShizzazy
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 2
Default

Awesome thanks for the advise!!! Got a reading from juice OG at 1.046 not super high but still a decent alc... Going to back sweeten n bottle this wknd.... Thanks for the carbing tip lebreton

__________________
ShazzyShizzazy is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-09-2012, 04:36 AM   #5
blaziest
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 1
Default

I made 5 gallons of hard cider this fall with a bunch of orchard apples fermented with the natural apple yeasts. Also, this is my 1st fermentation... I added cinnamon, nutmeg, pumpkin pie spices and a lot of brown and white sugar. I have it in a 5 gallon jug with air lock and I am ready to put it into smaller containers.
I know I can freeze it, but what are my other options?
Can I can it like I would tomato juice or will it continue to ferment and break the jar?
Also, I froze, or attempted to freeze some. It has been in the freezer two days now and it is like a slushy. I have read that in a typical freezer anything under 64 proof freezes solid.
Is it possible that I have 64+ proof hard cider?...?... just doesn't seem possible without distillation.
One more... What kind of hydrometer should I get to test the proof?

__________________
blaziest is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-11-2012, 01:02 AM   #6
roadymi
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Middle of the Mitten, Michigan
Posts: 814
Liked 31 Times on 29 Posts
Likes Given: 6

Default

Quote:
Can I can it like I would tomato juice or will it continue to ferment and break the jar?
Pasteurization temps will kill the yeast.

Quote:
Also, I froze, or attempted to freeze some. It has been in the freezer two days now and it is like a slushy. I have read that in a typical freezer anything under 64 proof freezes solid.
Is it possible that I have 64+ proof hard cider?...?... just doesn't seem possible without distillation.
Most yeast have abv tolerance well below 20%. You likely still have high sugar concentration. Concentrated juices will not freeze solid.

Quote:
What kind of hydrometer should I get to test the proof?
One frem your LHBS. Hydrometors do not check proof per se. You use Og-Fg to calculate the ABV.
__________________
Reality is an illusion that occurs due to the lack of alcohol.
Give a man a beer, he'll drink for the day.Teach a man to brew, he'll be drunk the rest of his life.
I have 8 carboys, 8 cornies, 5-1 gal jugs, 200 wine bottles, 10 cases of beer bottles and a nice assortment of flip tops....My goal is to keep them at least 50% occupied
roadymi is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-11-2012, 01:37 AM   #7
kpwright
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Posts: 19
Liked 1 Times on 1 Posts

Default

It's not too late to add sugar to your batch. I suggest 4 lbs of standard white granulated.

__________________
kpwright is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply


Quick Reply
Message:
Options
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Rack to secondary - ferm complete or almost complete? StophJS Fermentation & Yeast 10 10-12-2011 05:00 AM
rookies first attempt at automation clay9_24 DIY Projects 36 04-30-2011 03:11 AM
Rookie Lesson for the Rookies Burkhardt Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 21 03-29-2011 03:09 PM
For Sale - Complete Beginner's Kit (I mean Complete) - Georgia Grizzlybrew For Sale 11 02-02-2011 12:35 PM
The Complete Joy...... Alabama Brewer Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 14 01-25-2008 11:17 AM