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Old 11-03-2012, 03:41 PM   #1
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So I'm stuck here, I have a cider that just won't start fermenting and was hoping the experts might have some ideas . I previously made a 1 gallon batch that turned out great so I stepped it up to 4 gallons. About a week ago I pitched the packet of S-04 but after a few days nothing was happening. I took a gravity reading and that confirmed that there was nothing going on. I then added some yeast nutrient and pitched another packet of S-04 (that was on wednesday). I took a reading today and again, nothing. The temps are right around 65 so I don't think it's that.

I'm using a different type of cider then the last time but according to the jug it's just 100% pasturized cider, nothing added which is just like the cider I used for my successful 1 gallon batch. Outside of that the whole process has been the same. Is there anything I can do to try and get this thing going? I'd hate to dump out 4 gallons of cider.

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Old 11-03-2012, 05:17 PM   #2
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Sounds like bad yeast or the cider has preservatives.

My opinion.

Try starting the yeast seperate in warm spring water and adding. This would rule out the yeast

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Old 11-03-2012, 05:19 PM   #3
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there are preservatives in the ingredients? temps should be above 55F. maybe you got two packs of dead yeast, which is unlikely. you could buy a 5 gram pack of champagne yeast, make a starter to be sure its active

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Old 11-03-2012, 05:26 PM   #4
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I had the same problem with my 5 gallon batch this year and I couldn't figure out what went wrong. I talked to a few local experts and this is what I tried.

I siphoned a half gallon into a clean glass gallon carboy

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Old 11-03-2012, 05:33 PM   #5
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And then I diluted it with about a half gallon of water. I added a little more sugar and pitched a pack of lavlin ec-1118. I put it in a dark corner of my kitchen where it was a little warmer ( 65 degrees or so). And let it sit for a couple days. Yeast took off. Then I added it back to the main batch. It worked great. Started bubbling within a couple hours.

I'm still not sure what the problem was to start with. :-)

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Old 11-03-2012, 05:50 PM   #6
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Look at the ingredients on the label. What is listed?

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Old 11-03-2012, 07:32 PM   #7
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wyldewal: I might have to give that a try as a last ditch attempt at saving this, thanks for the info.

BWN, I don't have the containers anymore but I'm pretty sure this was just 100% pressed apple juice. I head read on here what to look for so I made sure it didn't have anything added to it. The only thing was that it was pasteurized but my 1 gallon batch was as well. I'm headed to the same store this weekend so if they still have it I'll double check the ingredients again. I do know for sure it had a "drink before" date which was about 30 days out from when we got it.

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