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Old 10-03-2008, 02:55 PM   #11
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I think the taste is derived more from the yeast than the juice.
Based on this if you cant find monchrat what is a good substitute?
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Old 10-03-2008, 10:08 PM   #12
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CiderRat: very interesting about the yeasts.

For sure someone needs to do a comparison. Maybe I will.

Thanks everyone, for the discussion.

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Old 10-03-2008, 10:52 PM   #13
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I say cider. I have done both, and while the clear juice adheres to Ed Wort's apfelwein recipe, there is nothing like aged cider done right. It is the tastiest stuff, ever. Yeah apfelwein is good, but if you desire more body and flavor, go cider. Just don't expect a clear product like when you use juice, it won't clear for a long time, if ever.

Whatever you do though, aging is key. 3-5 months either one is drinkable, 6+ is excellent.

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Old 10-03-2008, 11:56 PM   #14
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Call it what you will but I think you missed my point. I'd agree fresh pressed JUICE is superior by far. No question. However cider is still a fermented beverage to everyone outside the US and folks in the "know".

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There is a huge difference between what is usually called cider in the US and apple juice. I think the main reason for the difference is the concentration of the juice that is used for storage of most store bought apple juice. Cider made from fresh pressed apples by local orchards is a far superior beverage.
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