Happy HolidaySs Giveaway - Winners Re-Re-Re-Re-Drawn - 24 hours to Claim!

Get your HBT Growlers, Shirts and Membership before the Rush!


Home Brew Forums > Wine, Mead, Cider, Sake & Soda > Cider Forum > Cider beer
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 10-20-2005, 08:41 PM   #11
kornkob
Resident Crazy Uncle
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
kornkob's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Madison WI
Posts: 1,843
Liked 17 Times on 11 Posts
Likes Given: 3

Default

As with many things, the US and the UK has some mild divergence in language over time on the subject of names for specific types of apple beverages.

In the US what is commonly referred to as 'apple juice' is filtered and clairified apple cider. Apple juice in the US tends to be a golden color, similar to that of tequila or a flat, clear ale. Apple cider tends to be a brownish red color and will often contain pulp that will settle out over time.

Hard cider, in the US, is cider that has been allowed to ferment, thereby acquiring significant alcohol content.

So in the US one makes cider by pressing apples and collecting the runoff. Then you can take this cider and process it one of 2 ways: clairify and filter to get apple juice or ferment and get hard cider.

__________________

Jason 'Kornkob' Robinson

I wanna move to Theory. Everything works in Theory.


kornkob is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-20-2005, 09:55 PM   #12
Orfy
For the love of beer!
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Orfy's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Cheshire, England
Posts: 11,853
Liked 69 Times on 52 Posts
Likes Given: 30

Default

We just have apple juice and unfiltered apple juice with bits in.

It just threw me, I've been drinking Cider for 20 years and had never heard of "Hard Cider".

Have you guys heard of Scrumpy Cider or Perry?

http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~gu...scrumpy/#intro


Orfy is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-20-2005, 10:46 PM   #13
kornkob
Resident Crazy Uncle
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
kornkob's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Madison WI
Posts: 1,843
Liked 17 Times on 11 Posts
Likes Given: 3

Default

To my knowledge there is no ubiquitous American term for 'naturally fermented' hard cider.

I've not heard of pear based ciders here.


hadn't heard of it except for Archer's Orchard-- right?

__________________

Jason 'Kornkob' Robinson

I wanna move to Theory. Everything works in Theory.


kornkob is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-20-2005, 11:30 PM   #14
Punn
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 65
Default

as for the main question, it is easy. I did mine this way

5 gallons of apple cider (pasturized or unpasturized) your choice. There are two schools of though on pasturized and unpasturized. Anyway. I did 5 gallons pasturized.

Add that to your sanitary fermenter, pitch in chapange yeast. lets sit for 10 days. move to secondary for 2-3 weeks. prime and bottle. wait 2 more weeks, chill and enjoy

__________________

Lots O Beer In the Bottle!

Punn is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-20-2005, 11:49 PM   #15
david_42
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
david_42's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Willamina & Oak Grove, Oregon, USA
Posts: 25,661
Liked 138 Times on 131 Posts

Default

It's as simple as Punn says, just be certain there are no preservatives in the juice.

By the way, do not over chill! If hard cider freezes, the resulting liquid (apple jack) is considered a distilled product and is illegal to make at home.

__________________
david_42 is online now
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-21-2005, 02:24 AM   #16
Walker
I use secondaries. :p
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Walker's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Cary, NC
Posts: 11,236
Liked 87 Times on 77 Posts
Likes Given: 11

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kornkob
I've not heard of pear based ciders here.
I can't remember the brand (the wife thinks it's Hornsby's, but I don't) but we were able to buy pear cider in some bars in San Jose, CA.

-walker
__________________
Ground Fault Brewing Co.
Walker is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-21-2005, 03:15 AM   #17
ScottT
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
ScottT's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Hurst, Tx
Posts: 654
Liked 1 Times on 1 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by orfy
We just have apple juice and unfiltered apple juice with bits in.

It just threw me, I've been drinking Cider for 20 years and had never heard of "Hard Cider".

Have you guys heard of Scrumpy Cider or Perry?

http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~gu...scrumpy/#intro

Yes, I have had Scrumpy and too much of it. We used to do pub crawl road trips when I was there. We'd charter a bus to take us to a location that had some good pubs and we'd make our way to each of them. One evening, I walked into this pub with my mates and to my surprise, there were wooden casks in stillage behind the bar. Beer engines were on the bar. I drank my fill of scrumpy poured straight from the cask. Cloudy and mighty tasty but it packed one hell of a kick.

It was a rough bus ride back to the base that night.
__________________

Scott

Primary: Empty

Secondary #2: Empty

Bottle Conditioning: Oatmeal Stout

Drinking from Keg: Ordinary Bitter, Kolsch

Drinking bottled: Brown Autumn Wee Heavy
Hefe Weizen
Peaches and Cream Weizen


"This is grain, which any fool can eat, but for which the Lord intended a more divine means of consumption... Beer!"
-Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves, Friar Tuck.

Next up: Hefe Weizen

ScottT is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-21-2005, 03:32 AM   #18
david_42
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
david_42's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Willamina & Oak Grove, Oregon, USA
Posts: 25,661
Liked 138 Times on 131 Posts

Default

I suspect there is no perry in WI, because pears don't grow there.

__________________
david_42 is online now
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-21-2005, 03:13 PM   #19
Walker
I use secondaries. :p
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Walker's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Cary, NC
Posts: 11,236
Liked 87 Times on 77 Posts
Likes Given: 11

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Walker
I can't remember the brand (the wife thinks it's Hornsby's, but I don't) but we were able to buy pear cider in some bars in San Jose, CA.

It turns out that brand name of that pear cider I had is "Woodchuck". My friends in CA love the stuff and always have it in their fridge, so I called them and asked. You can get it at some pretty large chain grocery stores in CA, and I *think* I might have seen in here in North Carolina at a grocery store, but I'll have to pay more attention to that end of the beer aisle next time I'm in there.

-walker
__________________
Ground Fault Brewing Co.
Walker is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-21-2005, 03:20 PM   #20
kornkob
Resident Crazy Uncle
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
kornkob's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Madison WI
Posts: 1,843
Liked 17 Times on 11 Posts
Likes Given: 3

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by david_42
I suspect there is no perry in WI, because pears don't grow there.
While pears aren't a staple of Wisconsin orchards, they do grow here. I recall from childhood climbing the neigbor's fence to 'liberate' pears from their back yard.

But yes-- Wisconsin trends toward apples and cranberries in farming of fruits. Hmmm---- wonder what cranberry hard cider would be like.
__________________

Jason 'Kornkob' Robinson

I wanna move to Theory. Everything works in Theory.

kornkob is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply



Quick Reply
Message:
Options
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Making beer from cider? Dustwing Gluten Free Brewing 2 10-12-2009 03:49 AM
beer with a bit of cider Ciderguy General Beer Discussion 4 04-15-2009 03:12 PM
MR Beer goes Cider CiderRat Cider Forum 2 10-16-2008 03:26 PM
Beer and cider mix Coastarine Recipes/Ingredients 6 05-15-2008 04:28 AM
Mr. Beer Cider Mixes? Monk Cider Forum 17 06-17-2006 05:38 AM



Newest Threads

LATEST SPONSOR DEALS