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SudsyPaul 12-21-2012 12:36 AM

Cider and Apfelwein half-batches?
I'm new to homebrewing, and my wife wants my hobby to benefit her, so I was thinking of making her Apfelwein. The only issue with that is that my wife doesn't want to wait 6+ months for something to drink :p

I have 21L of cold-pressed apple juice that I bought from Walmart, today (some Canadian brand) and I was thinking of doing a half-batch of Apfelwein with Lavlin 1118, and another half-batch of sweet hard cider.

I've found several recipes for dry cider, but I'm looking for a sweet cider that I can make in 3-4 months. My wife likes Magners and Grower's brand ciders... but Magners is super complicated and Grower's is too small to find a clone (and I'm too new to come up with something on my own)

Would 2.5gal of apple juice + 1lb of corn sugar + Wyeast 3068? Primary for 4-6 weeks and rack to secondary for another 4-6 weeks, then bottle for 3-4 weeks?

SudsyPaul 12-21-2012 02:00 AM

I just had a mini-braingasm. I think I'm going to make a full batch of Apfelwein and then backsweeten 1/2 with Splenda and carb it, and then leave half of it flat and dry.

That way, I get to appreciate the full goodness of the Apfelwein without carbonation or added sweetness, and my wife gets a sweet fizzy drink :) The flat stuff can wait until the summer/fall of 2013 for consumption, too... since I want to give it time to mature before I try it out.

Pickled_Pepper 12-21-2012 05:33 PM

I personally think you can get a GREAT session cider in less than 2 months. A couple of weeks in primary, about a month or so in secondary always gives me a nice crisp cider without being mouth puckering. (FG 1.001 - 1.002) This being said, I typically only shoot for 6-8% ABV...the more alcohol the longer you typically will have to age it.

OR...if you make apple wine...just start now and keep the pipeline going. You'll have to wait a long time for the first batch, but then it will be a steady supply ;)

SudsyPaul 12-22-2012 02:48 AM


I just filled the carboy, got an OG reading of 1.060

SudsyPaul 01-05-2013 03:15 AM

Just made another batch with Rougemont apple juice (cheaper brand than the walmart cider) and ended up with an OG reading of 1.062. Close enough to compare juice to juice when it's all done :)

3rd batch using Allen's apple juice is planned for tomorrow.

All 3 batches will use the same yeast. I might make a 4th batch with wyeast 3068, since I have a smack-pack for an upcoming dunkelweizen, but I might step it a couple times and get enough to make my dunkelweizen + another 2.5gal batch of cider.

SudsyPaul 01-06-2013 08:24 PM

And 3rd batch is made. ended up making a bit more than 2.5gal, and got a OG reading of 1.062.

Can't wait to try all these out. But at 68F, it's gonna be a LONG time before these are done fermenting :S

Pickled_Pepper 01-07-2013 01:23 PM

At 68F, I think you will be surprised. I typically shoot for around 58F for primary and low 60s for secondary. At 68, most yeast strains will enjoy those "snow bird" balmy temps ;)

SudsyPaul 01-07-2013 03:50 PM

Here's a pic of the 3 of them on the go:
Yes, I know, lots of empty carboys! I just bought 8 of them, so I'm working at cleaning them (lots of nasty in them) and I gotta find time to brew some beer (newborn in house, not easy to find spare time)

Pickled_Pepper 01-07-2013 09:51 PM

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Congrats on all of the carboys. I put all of mine in empty milk crates. They work awesome for moving carboys around. They are easier to carry than the neck handles (which shouldn't be used on full carboys) and it allows you to slide them around without worrying about the bottoms.

SudsyPaul 01-07-2013 11:13 PM

Oh! Genius!! Where do you get those, nowadays? I don't know anybody that works at a grocery store, so kinda SOL.

I'm a pretty big dude and have rubber gloves I use to pick up the carboys. The 5gal one is heavy as sin, but they don't move much :p I also have a carboy hauler on order for further moves.

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