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YeOldeBeard 11-20-2012 05:45 PM

Can I pasteurise by heating my actual cider in a stainless pot to 150??
 
I am currently fermenting out a hard cider but I would like to stop fermentation a little early. I used Red Star Champagne yeast and I was told cold crashing this yeast will not do much. I have been looking into pasteurization instead.

Can I rack my cider into a stainless pot and heat it to 150 degrees like that??

My plan was after pasteurization to put it in the fridge to let the dead yeast settle and rack one more time to add my final ingredients. Will this work??

Double_D 11-20-2012 05:51 PM

I"ve heard people bottle it and let it condition to your desired carbonation level and then pasteurize. You'd have to add more yeast to get it to bottle condition if you pasteurized it in bulk. Theoretically it would work but I don't know if it's a good idea.

YeOldeBeard 11-20-2012 06:05 PM

I am looking for a still cider I dont want it carbonated at all.

I am just looking to kill the yeast then rack a few times to clear it a little, then add my sugars. I would like to give it away in mason jars of possible.

CodyA 11-20-2012 06:26 PM

Just one problem: Oxidation. I keg-pasteurized my cider yesterday to stop fermentation.

Lammyrock 11-20-2012 06:30 PM

I don't have experience with this specifically, but I believe you will need to keep the cider at 150 for some time -to be effective, and this may cook off some of the alochol/flavors.

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f25/can-i-stop-fermentation-early-81352/

YeOldeBeard 11-20-2012 06:38 PM

From what I read it would have to be @150 degrees for 15 minutes. Would a cambden tablet be better??

CodyA 11-20-2012 07:09 PM

^ No. Campden does not kill commercial yeast.

YeOldeBeard 11-20-2012 07:11 PM

What about freezing it?

CodyA 11-20-2012 07:23 PM

Only kills most of the yeast, not all. I froze mine, thawed, put in the fridge for a day, racked, put in the fridge again for 3 days with a shot of biofin (finning agent) to clear, racked into my keg, backsweetened, sealed and pressurized to 20psi, and let it sit in hot water over the stove until the surface of the keg was too hot to hold my palm on for more than a few seconds... I'm going to test in a soda bottle wednesday to see if fermentation re-starts. If it does, I'm convinced that Safale S-04 is indestructible.... Then proceed to heat my keg up until the the keg burns the **** out of my hand when I try to touch it.

huntingohio 11-20-2012 07:31 PM

you need to use campdne and potasium sorbate to completely kill the yeast, shoul be maybe 5 bucks at your lhbs


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