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Old 05-01-2009, 09:07 PM   #21
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Well, I just bottled my very first cider over the weekend and was trying to decide what my next one would be, I think I've found it!

I like the name Graff as well, it makes it kind of unique to have its own name, but, as the original brewer, I leave the decision up to Brandon.
Graff it is.

The recipe is one I found here tho, I just switched up the grains a bit and added hops to counter the tart.
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Old 05-01-2009, 09:33 PM   #22
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Graff it is.

The recipe is one I found here tho, I just switched up the grains a bit and added hops to counter the tart.

Well, it sounds like it's distinct enough to call your own. Glad we settled on a name, thanks to Snuffalupagus for the PERFECT name for this concotion!

I'm going to brew myself a batch of Graff soon. Hee, hee, see, already it sounds good, like a small speciality group of Graff brewers right here in HBT with Brandon as our spiritual leader!
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Old 05-01-2009, 11:14 PM   #23
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Posted in the cider forum.

After many many batches of developing this, it's the best cider style beverage I have ever had and I feel confident posting it in the recipe section.
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Really quick, stupid question.. but you are only boiling about 1 gallon of water right? You're not boiling the apple juice as well are you? I'm just trying to figure out the process so I can get to making a batch.
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Really quick, stupid question.. but you are only boiling about 1 gallon of water right? You're not boiling the apple juice as well are you? I'm just trying to figure out the process so I can get to making a batch.
I dunno how anyone else does it but when I made my batch last week I only boiled the 1 gallon water with my hops. Boiling all the AJ would cause some pectic haze.

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Really quick, stupid question.. but you are only boiling about 1 gallon of water right? You're not boiling the apple juice as well are you? I'm just trying to figure out the process so I can get to making a batch.
Correct, only boil the 1 gallon.

The recipe posted in the recipe section clearly goes through the process.
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To avoid any continual debate on the "cider" moniker for this recipie

I propose we call it something totally different...

Are any of you ladies and gents familiar with Steven King's
"Dark Tower" series of books?

anyway - in this series, in addition to common wines and beers a made up drink called "Graff" Graff is commonly served at bars and events. the only discription of it describes it as a "strong apple beer"
not a cider or wine, but a "beer" - evidently while being quite quaffable, it packs a bit of a punch, and Gunslingers (the protagonists of the series) tend to enjoy it in moderation because of this "sneak up and bite you" property of the drink.

I think we should name Brandon's invention Graff - as the ingredient list he has posted makes me think of this "strong apple beer" described in Steven Kings Series of books.

what do you think... wanna call it Graff?
Does graff go well with popkins? Should I take an astin
or two after a couple pints of it? Do you think Lud has any LHBS left?

And for the super nerds:

Nozz-a-la

Check out their contact info, I was confused until I saw the address, then I knew what I was dealing with.

I still haven't finished VII


Oh, and Brandon, I've got something like this in the fermenter right now, letting it clear out, except no wheat or hops, more crystal, and less DME (ok, nothing like it, but it's a malted cider that I also made in an attempt to get something a little richer that Apfelwein). I'll have to give the Graff a shot next time, maybe I'll have finished the last Tower book by then.

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Oh, and Brandon, I've got something like this in the fermenter right now, letting it clear out, except no wheat or hops, more crystal, and less DME (ok, nothing like it, but it's a malted cider that I also made in an attempt to get something a little richer that Apfelwein). I'll have to give the Graff a shot next time, maybe I'll have finished the last Tower book by then.

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Malted cider is the main point here. I think you'll love it.

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I just racked my 3 week old batch into a secondary. Way more apple flavor than I have tasted in anything so young. I used 1 ounce of some old Liberty hops (prolly a year old) with AA of 4% Next time I am going to use a smidge more. This stuff is gonna be a winner.
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I just racked my 3 week old batch into a secondary. Way more apple flavor than I have tasted in anything so young. I used 1 ounce of some old Liberty hops (prolly a year old) with AA of 4% Next time I am going to use a smidge more. This stuff is gonna be a winner.
I used a full ounce as well because the hops I had were also 4 AAU. The hydro sample tasted good. So, hopefully it will be balanced.
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