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Old 04-11-2009, 12:06 AM   #11
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what was that black cider you where talking about
Same thing but you add 4-6oz of chocolate malt to the steeping process.

I don't like the chocolate grains in there tho as much as I like it with out.
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Old 04-14-2009, 06:28 AM   #12
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This sounds interesting. I'm tempted to try this out since i noticed some fresh pressed gala apple juice at the local Haggens for $5 a gal. I don't have any Safale S05, but i saw a reference that says its very close to Wyeast 1056 which i happen to have a starter handy.

Anyone have any experience with ciders using Wyeast 1056?
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Old 04-26-2009, 08:39 AM   #13
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Hey Brandon..

How long do you usually age this till it is drinkable. Months? Years? Decades?

Just curious. I rounded up all the ingredients this week and plan on throwing it all in a carboy this weekend.
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Old 04-26-2009, 04:41 PM   #14
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I have both the apfelwine and this recipe fermenting now. I used the same use for both, Wyeast 3068. I pitched Brandon's recipe on the yeast cake and damn has this thing been wildly fermenting. After 5 days in the carboy I may be able to put an airlock on the carboy tonight. The blow-off tube really saved me this time.
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Old 04-26-2009, 08:14 PM   #15
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Hmmm...cider with head retention...or even with a head!

Doesn't seem too appealing.

But, I guess taste can make just about anything tolerable.

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This recipe sounds interesting. Since I happen to have a few gallons of apple juice waiting in the wings, I think I'll give it a try. Thanks for sharing! Regards, GF.
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Old 04-27-2009, 08:17 PM   #17
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To avoid any continual debate on the "cider" moniker for this recipie

I propose we call it something totally different...

Are any of you ladies and gents familiar with Steven King's
"Dark Tower" series of books?

anyway - in this series, in addition to common wines and beers a made up drink called "Graff" Graff is commonly served at bars and events. the only discription of it describes it as a "strong apple beer"
not a cider or wine, but a "beer" - evidently while being quite quaffable, it packs a bit of a punch, and Gunslingers (the protagonists of the series) tend to enjoy it in moderation because of this "sneak up and bite you" property of the drink.

I think we should name Brandon's invention Graff - as the ingredient list he has posted makes me think of this "strong apple beer" described in Steven Kings Series of books.

what do you think... wanna call it Graff?
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I think we should name Brandon's invention Graff - as the ingredient list he has posted makes me think of this "strong apple beer" described in Steven Kings Series of books.

what do you think... wanna call it Graff?
I think that is a superb idea, sounds pretty damn slick
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Hey Brandon..

How long do you usually age this till it is drinkable. Months? Years? Decades?

Just curious. I rounded up all the ingredients this week and plan on throwing it all in a carboy this weekend.
It's drinkable in a few weeks. better after a month.
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Well, I just bottled my very first cider over the weekend and was trying to decide what my next one would be, I think I've found it!

I like the name Graff as well, it makes it kind of unique to have its own name, but, as the original brewer, I leave the decision up to Brandon.
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