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naeco 08-18-2011 12:48 AM

backsweetning with apple concentrate and what to use to kill yeast
Hello, I have yet to try to make non-carbonated cider but having a new love for white sweet wine, I wanted to give a shot to bottling sweet cider and I have 2 questions:

1 - In order to get the best flavor out of my existing cider that's been aging for more than a year, do you recommend I use apple concentrate or simply cane sugar to get a cidery sweetness ?

2 - I never had to use any sulfite(as seen on wine bottle) as I always carbonate my cider and have no idea what to use to kill the yeast and how much per gallon ?


Yooper 08-18-2011 12:53 AM

When you sweeten, you need to use potassium sorbate to prevent fermentation from restarting. Sulfites don't kill yeast, and in fact wine yeast strains are very tolerant of sulfites (that's why winemakers use them). Sorbate doesn't kill yeast, either, but it inhibits yeast reproduction. so make sure that you don't have any lees on the bottom of the fermenter (which is mostly yeast) when your rack into the sorbate. Sorbate works better in the presence of sulfites, so you usually use both at that time.

Use 1/2 teaspoon of potassium sorbate and one campden tablet, per gallon of finished cider. Dissolve them together in 1/4 cup boiling water and stir well, to make sure it's well dissolved. Add that to the receiving carboy, and then rack the finished cider into it. Wait a couple of days, and then sweeten to taste.

You can sweeten with anything that sounds good. Honey, apple juice concentrate, sugar, splenda, etc. What I like to do is to pull a sample out and add various things and amounts until I get what I like. Then, I take a SG of the sample I like and sweeten the whole batch that amount. If I like it at 1.003, then I sweeten the whole batch to that amount. One thing- it does tend to taste a bit sweeter after being bottled for a while, so you might want to sweeten to just under where you want it to end up. For example, if you love it at 1.010, you may want to sweeten to 1.008.

naeco 08-18-2011 01:10 AM

WOW ... thank you Yooper for the quick response !

naeco 08-18-2011 01:18 AM

Anybody has an opinion on what would be the best thing to add if I want a light apple taste ... my guess is apple concentrate but I could be wrong. I don<t want to add fresh cider as it would lower the ABV of my cider that is already pretty low.

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