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Old 01-16-2013, 02:31 PM   #1
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Sorry about that, but the original title "White floating(?) specks(?)...ok? ...infection?..." only got one view in 24 hours so I figured I needed to do something to get some attention.

I'm concerned about my second batch of mead possibly having a problem. I'm seeing "white specks" apparently floating in the mead that "appear" to collect in a ring on the inside of the vessels. I pitched the yeast for the traditional mead back on November 24th, 2012. Here's some basic info about it:

*Target Volume: 3.25 gallons (ended up a little over this)
*9.75 lb. Local Medium Colored Wildflower Honey (not sure of final weight...added honey to bring OG to 1.108.
*Added enough water to make 3.25 gallons must (probably 2.5 gallons of bottled water).
*KIV-1116 w/Go-Ferm Protect
*Fermentation temperatures ranged 65F to 69F, aging now at roughly same temps.
*Added nutrients and energizer after lag and again at the 1/3 sugar break.
Had a good fermentation (I think).
Aerated for the first three dags (until the 1/3 sugar break). After than I would gently swirl the air-locked bucket once or twice a day.
On December 15th I racked to 3-gal carboy (29 days).
At racking time pH was 4.0+ (simple test strips) and gravity was 1.009.
No sulfphite or sorbate has been added, yet.


Below are some images and a video detailing what I'm seeing. Anybody want to take a guess at what I have here? One thought that crossed my mind is "flowers of wine", but I haven't seen a thick layer build up...BUT, I haven't given it time to build up as I swirl it once or twice a day.

Thanks for any help or ideas that you can give me!

Ed

Here is the 3-gal carboy's neck area. This is what built up around the surface in twelve hours. A gentle swirl will dislodge/disperse this into a thin cloud...


This is a link to a close-up youtube video of CO2 bubbles rising towards the neck after the carboy was swirled a bit. You can see some of the larger "white specks". At about the 52 second mark it gets another good swirl that re-invigorates things. It's odd but some of the "bubbles" appear to be going downward and sideways which makes me wonder if those are bubbles or "something else".


The "overage" that was put into a 1-liter PET drink bottle.


After picking up the drink bottle you can see some of the white matter that has been disturbed beginning to drop down...


Lastly, this picture shows the cloud created immediately after swirling the drink bottle...
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Thanks for any help here!

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Hmm, I think I might need to go ahead and dump it out...

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Don't you dare!

I have no idea, but it doesn't look like an infection which spreads and grows across the surface. Maybe it's yeast, pollen, etc, but I would NOT worry too much about it unless it grows fur.

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Dont dump! You have provided a lot of info execpt how it tastes. Taste a sample already. Even some sour meads are good.

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<chuckle> Don't worry, I'm not gonna pitch it...just wanted to be sure the post wasn't invisible or something. So far no fuzzies, Yooper. I'm planning on doing a little mead work this weekend...got a JAOM to bottle (it'll be my first bottling....probably about eight 12oz beer bottles). I plan on checking pH and gravity on the Iron Bowl mead, too. I'll run the mead through my filter system and let ya'll know how it tastes.

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Sorry about that, but the original title "White floating(?) specks(?)...ok? ...infection?..." only got one view in 24 hours so I figured I needed to do something to get some attention.

I'm concerned about my second batch of mead possibly having a problem. I'm seeing "white specks" apparently floating in the mead that "appear" to collect in a ring on the inside of the vessels. I pitched the yeast for the traditional mead back on November 24th, 2012. Here's some basic info about it:

*Target Volume: 3.25 gallons (ended up a little over this)
*9.75 lb. Local Medium Colored Wildflower Honey (not sure of final weight...added honey to bring OG to 1.108.
*Added enough water to make 3.25 gallons must (probably 2.5 gallons of bottled water).
*KIV-1116 w/Go-Ferm Protect
*Fermentation temperatures ranged 65F to 69F, aging now at roughly same temps.
*Added nutrients and energizer after lag and again at the 1/3 sugar break.
Had a good fermentation (I think).
Aerated for the first three dags (until the 1/3 sugar break). After than I would gently swirl the air-locked bucket once or twice a day.
On December 15th I racked to 3-gal carboy (29 days).
At racking time pH was 4.0+ (simple test strips) and gravity was 1.009.
No sulfphite or sorbate has been added, yet.

Below are some images and a video detailing what I'm seeing. Anybody want to take a guess at what I have here? One thought that crossed my mind is "flowers of wine", but I haven't seen a thick layer build up...BUT, I haven't given it time to build up as I swirl it once or twice a day.

Thanks for any help or ideas that you can give me!

Ed

Here is the 3-gal carboy's neck area. This is what built up around the surface in twelve hours. A gentle swirl will dislodge/disperse this into a thin cloud...

This is a link to a close-up youtube video of CO2 bubbles rising towards the neck after the carboy was swirled a bit. You can see some of the larger "white specks". At about the 52 second mark it gets another good swirl that re-invigorates things. It's odd but some of the "bubbles" appear to be going downward and sideways which makes me wonder if those are bubbles or "something else".
Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sl0gNCdD4yQ

The "overage" that was put into a 1-liter PET drink bottle.

After picking up the drink bottle you can see some of the white matter that has been disturbed beginning to drop down...

Lastly, this picture shows the cloud created immediately after swirling the drink bottle...
Flowers of wine: flowers of wine are little flecks of a yeast that will ruin the wine. Various sources suggest sulphiting and filtering.
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Flowers of wine: flowers of wine are little flecks of a yeast that will ruin the wine. Various sources suggest sulphiting and filtering.
Ok, are you giving me a definition of flowers of wine or are you stating that what I have *is* flowers of wine?

I'm a bit confused on what to do here.

Have long have you been making mead/wine, spud?

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Since flowers of wine only grows in an environment of less than 10.5% ABV, and since it's more of a white powder, I doubt very much it's flowers of wine.

That said, treating with campden/metabisulfite won't hurt and could help.

It really looks more like yeast clumps to me, but it's hard to tell from a photo so it might be wise to err on the side of caution and sulfite the mead.

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My chocollate mead did this, was going to sterilize it
When dragged it across floor white stuff disappeared
Check out my thread if you can find it for picts, sorry dont know how to do a link.....didnt do anything to it...
Thinking it Was just scummy bibb.es, has not come back....

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