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Old 09-26-2013, 01:36 AM   #21
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Ok after talking through with some other people I think I found why they all died. Old age. The comb built is pretty small. There may only be a 100 or so bees hatched at any one time with as little comb that I have. Last Monday was the 6 week mark from when I captured the swarm. And worker bees live 4-6 weeks at most. So I think the original swarm died off. It is the only thing that makes a little sense. I need a thousand live young bees in order to keep them warm enough to live through the winter. With this drop in population I think they are doomed. I will get with my local large beekeeper and get a NUC this following May and give this another go next spring.



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Old 09-26-2013, 02:20 AM   #22
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Can you put them in the garage or garden shed and keep it cold but not more than a degree or two below freezing?



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Old 09-26-2013, 02:48 AM   #23
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Unfortunately, it's not just the temperature thing. A hive needs a good amount of bees in it to do lots of stuff, from tending to the brood and feeding the queen, to making wax for combs and guarding the hive. If there aren't enough bees, they colony is doomed.
However, you can take the queen and re-introduce her to another hive that may need a queen. Bummer about the hive though.

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Old 09-26-2013, 03:13 AM   #24
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Too bad about the hive, I guess it was just too late in the season.

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Old 09-26-2013, 01:24 PM   #25
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Really sucks about the hive but at least you were able to get good advice and experience so you will be even better prepared for the next one

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Old 09-26-2013, 08:33 PM   #26
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I doubt that the cause of the hive death is age. Reasoning, you would see a gradual die off if the queen could not make start enough bee's to replenish the hive. I doubt that is the problem unless the queen has failed.

A good possibility is pesticide spraying of crops while blooming or a lawn care company spraying a yard nearby while something is blooming. Here in WV several years ago we had the Department of Natural Resources and highway departments, spray weeds on the roadside and stream banks while there was a nectar flow going from the goldenrod.

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Old 09-26-2013, 09:34 PM   #27
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Man! I'm only thinking of making mead and I've never owned bees but that made me sad.

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Old 09-27-2013, 12:31 AM   #28
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Can I ask why you went with RC-212? I don't know much about wine yeast. Just started making mead and have been using D-47. Just curious what the difference is.

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Aropolis, your post is a little confusing. Are you saying that they were flying around and ok and within 2 hrs all died? You may have just been robbed out, that happens to small hives, all the bees you saw buzzing around were not your bees but robbers, when you opened the hive you saw the results of the fight your little colony put up against the robbers. The wasp was probably just scavenging. I lost a nuc yesterday just like this, I had the entrance blocked off but they were to weak and the other bees took every drop of honey. The important thing is that you got a taste for it. Make sure to put your nuc order in soon. WVMJ

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It's a bee sting bee world out there.



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