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59f100292 08-17-2010 01:26 AM

Mead vs wine
 
I'm new to making wine and figured - why not be new to making mead too? what are the differences in procedure? What do I need to do different? any different equipment necessary?

Yooper 08-17-2010 01:35 AM

Mead is wine. It's simply a wine made with honey. "Honeywine" would be another name for mead.

Killinger 08-17-2010 02:48 AM

Not to hijack the thread (nor to start a fight), but saying mead is wine troubles me. I realize honeywine is a colloquial synonym for mead, but by my more stodgy definitions, wine is a non-distilled fermented beverage made from fruit juices, mead is a non-distilled fermented beverage made from honey, and beer is a non-distilled fermented beverage made from grain.

From the recipes on this board (and elsewhere, to be fair), it seems the definition of wine is more flexible. I've seen a lot of recipes deriving most of their fermentables from cane sugar. I'm not sure what I call that, but in other contexts, they call it hooch. Mind you, I'm not calling it hooch, just sayin'.

For the purposes of the OP, mead and wine work the same way, yes.

jezter6 08-17-2010 02:58 AM

Welcome to HBT. Noticed you're local and wanted to suggest if you're interested in mead, if you can make the 9/11 brewday up in harford county (see sig), you're more than welcome to come up, talk mead, and as usual - plenty of sampling of meads (and beer) while we brew.

biochemedic 08-17-2010 07:22 AM

To expand on Killinger, there are many techniques similar between wine and mead making, and if you've done one, you can do the other with minimal or no additional equipment.

Regarding the various names, it can get even more confusing, because mead (meaning fermented honey) can be mixed with other fermentables from fruit (including grapes), and is still be considered mead (technically a pyment, if it's honey with grape juice fermented together). I think it really has to do more with the percentages...if the main source of fermentables is honey, then it's a mead, no matter what else you're adding.

If it's sugar, I'll just say it...it's hooch! (Not that there's anything wrong with that...!)

gratus fermentatio 08-17-2010 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 59f100292 (Post 2220541)
I'm new to making wine and figured - why not be new to making mead too? what are the differences in procedure? What do I need to do different? any different equipment necessary?

Same equipment, same basic procedures. If you really want a handle on mead, you should read The Compleat Meadmaker by Ken Schramm; it's not required of course, but it will certainly give you a lot more info & even answer questions you haven't yet thought to ask. Regards, GF.

Yooper 08-17-2010 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Killinger (Post 2220711)
Not to hijack the thread (nor to start a fight), but saying mead is wine troubles me. I realize honeywine is a colloquial synonym for mead, but by my more stodgy definitions, wine is a non-distilled fermented beverage made from fruit juices, mead is a non-distilled fermented beverage made from honey, and beer is a non-distilled fermented beverage made from grain.

From the recipes on this board (and elsewhere, to be fair), it seems the definition of wine is more flexible. I've seen a lot of recipes deriving most of their fermentables from cane sugar. I'm not sure what I call that, but in other contexts, they call it hooch. Mind you, I'm not calling it hooch, just sayin'.

For the purposes of the OP, mead and wine work the same way, yes.

Well, there are even people who say "wine" is specifically made from grapes. Grapes only- not other fruits. So, you can define it however you'd like.

CuAllaidh 08-17-2010 03:28 PM

Mead and wine are similar in process. The equipment is the same. I highly suggest you try making some mead, its fun and tasty.

As for the is mead honey wine debate, well as its been said it all depends on your definition of wine, personally I don't like the term honeywine, however it gets the idea across of what mead is. Before I tasted mead I assumed it was a beer like substance made from honey, and while a braggot would fit this assumption, for the most part this is not the case. I agree with Killinger that mead is in its own category, but I also agree YooperBrew that different people have different definitions of wine, and for the most part the different definitions are all correct.

biochemedic 08-17-2010 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by gratus fermentatio (Post 2221085)
Same equipment, same basic procedures. If you really want a handle on mead, you should read The Compleat Meadmaker by Ken Schramm; it's not required of course, but it will certainly give you a lot more info & even answer questions you haven't yet thought to ask. Regards, GF.

Yeah, +1 on Ken Schramm's book...definitely the bible of meadmaking books.

jonalexdeval 08-23-2010 05:21 AM

Mead and wine use the same yeasts, and are more closely related to each other than either is to beer. So in that sense you could say they are both wines of sorts.

Same procedures, same yeasts, etc. With wine you just have to know specifically about wine grapes. That's where knowledge of ingredients comes in.


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