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Old 01-23-2009, 03:25 AM   #21
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And everyone seems to want some exchange for giving the mead..except, what's wrong with doing it outta friendship or the kindness of his heart???
I agree wholeheartedly. Make the mead and give them some bottles. On top of that, teach them how. What would be really cool is to learn how it was brewed in the days of old (her "organization" may have roots with specific ingredients) and teach them that.
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Old 01-23-2009, 03:29 AM   #22
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I agree wholeheartedly. Make the mead and give them some bottles. On top of that, teach them how. What would be really cool is to learn how it was brewed in the days of old (her "organization" may have roots with specific ingredients) and teach them that.
Great minds....

The book I recommended in my first post talks about the ritual uses and history of mead and other alcohol drinks in sacred situations...that's why I figured she'd like it...her group could tie the making and the drinking of the first of the batch into their sacred services....


Anyone noticed the OP hasn't been back, btw???
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Old 01-23-2009, 04:20 AM   #23
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Great minds....

The book I recommended in my first post talks about the ritual uses and history of mead and other alcohol drinks in sacred situations...that's why I figured she'd like it...her group could tie the making and the drinking of the first of the batch into their sacred services....


Anyone noticed the OP hasn't been back, btw???
Hopefully, the OP will take the idea and run with it.

Cool book.
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Old 01-23-2009, 08:09 PM   #24
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i'd say sell it. im not much for following laws, hell how many of us here drank underage?! ilegal.

you could also trade a few bottles for a few pounds of raw honey. pagans know where to get the raw pure stuff, may even know some beekeepers! arhaic bartering would also tickle the average pagan pink.

the first time i tried mead was at a pagan beltane ritual in a cabin up in the appalachain mountains. i was 15. . pagans are intersesting people to say the least, and that was a night i'l never forget. try to get invited, even if you dont care much for the religion theyre a very social lot.

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Old 01-24-2009, 10:04 AM   #25
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What?????????????

I'm sorry I have no clue what the heck you are saying.

Religuous organizations take donations all the time..we usually offer a receipt for tax purposes to the gifter ( I know I usually got hand cramps from signing them)...but in this case, to the IRS that would be seen as payment..and therefore that could be illegal, since accepting payment for homebrew is against the law..also the person is a friend of the OP's so what the f is wrong with giving his friend some meade???

And everyone seems to want some exchange for giving the mead..except, what's wrong with doing it outta friendship or the kindness of his heart???
No need to be sorry, It was a poor post at best. I didn't take enough time to post, and should have opted to post it later instead of posting that strange, half-written post.

The long post would have read something like:

There is nothing wrong with giving away the mead. If everyone is favorable, then that's the way that it should be.
Many times religious organizations (and other organizations specifically labeling themselves non-religious for personal moral or mental reasons) desire to give back to those who give to them. Whether it be in recognition of service or a gift of some kind, they desire to show their appreciation of the gift they receive. Other organizations can feel like they are imposing or being rude by not giving something back.

Now, your example of giving receipts for tax purposes gives another example of that very thing.


Perhaps I'm looking at the responses to this thread in a different light than you are. On other forums that I'm on, people respond with ideas even if the issue is solved because it creates a larger search database. Say the OP of this thread has already resolved the issue, and decided to give the mead freely. That's great, and that is what many of us would do. Say however that someone else happens to run across and read this thread from a search and is in a similar situation. In this hypothetical case, the receiving party is either unwilling or unable by moral dilemma to be able to accept the gift without reciprocation. In this case, the extra ideas in the thread will be useful.

I actually had a friend a few years ago who was a Celtic Priest of some order or other. His sect followed a doctrine that did not allow them to accept gifts without equal reciprocal gift. I still have his card somewhere, and in quotation marks it says "...repay gift for gift and favor in kind." So while ideal for many, the option of giving it away isn't acceptable to everyone.

Perhaps I'm being overly optimistic about how many people will use the search function. It does seem that quite a few people on the internet just jump out with a question that has been answered many, many times. It would be nice to be able to track those who do use the search function to answer their own questions, but they seem to not post their questions after they have found the answers!

The question of why you happen to be the only one saying "GIVE IT TO HER" is answered in two parts:
1. You were the second post, and seem to have explained the suggestion well enough that no other poster felt that it needed embellishment or clarification.
2. You weren't; ruger12pk posted "Why not just give it as an offering?"
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I'm with the others. They give you the honey and whatnot, you give them the mead. Labor and storage? Just keep a bottle or two for yourself to cover that. Seems fair to me.
+ 1 on that. Always good to keep one's nose clean & with this arrangement, everybody wins. Regards, GF.
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I've made a White Sage Honey mead last year. It came out very good. If you like the herbal flavor in a mead, you'll like it.

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I've thought about that, but there's always the problem of someone ratting you out. It would be just my luck if I did it that way that there would be someone who would o that.

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I understand your stance on just giving her some. I have given bottles to friends on occasion. But to be honest, I am actually looking to attempt to make a profit here. With the way the economy is, I am hurting just like a lot of others out there. I would like to take a hobby and turn it into a small business so that way I can continue to have that hobby on a regular basis rather than cast it aside for the time because "I can't afford to di it right now."

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I understand your stance on just giving her some. I have given bottles to friends on occasion. But to be honest, I am actually looking to attempt to make a profit here. With the way the economy is, I am hurting just like a lot of others out there. I would like to take a hobby and turn it into a small business so that way I can continue to have that hobby on a regular basis rather than cast it aside for the time because "I can't afford to di it right now."
Well since THAT's an illegal activity, I wouldn't be broadcasting it online.....Just like I wouldn't post how much I brew in a given year....



Do what you want but I wouldn't be advertising your desire to "make a profit" on one of the largest hobby alcohol producing boards in the US.

If you wanna make money, then apply for a winery license. Otherwise it is an illegal endeavor if you haven't realized such. We are not allowed by law to sell the fruits of this hobby without all manner of licenses, health stamps, and tax ids...

Good luck to you then...

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