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Old 12-14-2011, 02:23 PM   #1
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Default Lactose in Mead?

Has anyone ever attempted using lactose to impart a creamy mouthfeel to their mead? I keep thinking this would be a nice addition to a vanilla metheglin.


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Old 12-14-2011, 03:46 PM   #2
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I did a 5 gal batch of Orange Vanilla where I used a pound of lactose in it. Turns out that this was not enough. I didn't get a creamy mouthfeel. So If you do I would recomend using 3-4 pounds in a 5 gal batch. This also may sweeten it up a little as it is a sugar, just not as sweet as sugar or honey.

I remember looking up the amounts and this is like 5% of what is in milk. 1 pound to 5 gallons that is. I think a single gallon of milk had like 3 pounds of lactose. If I remember correctly.

I based my recipie off of a cream ale for the amount of Lactose. I forgot to take into account that Beer is actually really thin and less flavorful than Meed, thus the Lactose has less of an effect.

Hope this helps.

I recomend experimenting a bit.

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Old 12-14-2011, 04:18 PM   #3
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I intend to.... I'm planning on doing a 1 gal experimental batch using the following:

3lb Manuka honey
3/4lb lactose
2 split vanilla beans steeped before primary
2 split vanilla beans in secondary

Lalvin ICV D-47

Bottle carbed

What do you think?
Does this qualify as a lactomel?
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Old 12-14-2011, 04:34 PM   #4
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That's a lot of vanilla.
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Old 12-14-2011, 04:52 PM   #5
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Oops.... I meant 2 in each. I was thinking a 5 gal batch when I wrote that for some reason. I do notice though that any vanilla I put in the primary gets stripped out during the active fermentation, so I tend to steep a couple and use the same ones all the way through. A lot of vanilla and a creamy mouth feel would be good I think.
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If you were to backsweeten with honey, wouldn't that produce a better mouthfeel as well as keep other unnecessary ingredients out of the mead?
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Hey Shark - depends on what you mean by "better" mouthfeel. It's quite customary to backsweeten with honey, but most meads stil have a thin mouth feel... nothing wrong with that, but honey doesn't typically give a creamy mouthfeel.
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If you were to backsweeten with honey, wouldn't that produce a better mouthfeel as well as keep other unnecessary ingredients out of the mead?
Backsweeten will definitely thicken the mouthfeel, though perhaps not give the mead a creamy mouthfeel; it also will sweeten the mead, which may or may not be what somebody is going for. Lactose is less sweet tasting, and thus can thicken the mead without sweetening it as much; it may also give a creamy mouthfeel, though I can't speak to this.

Why would you call it an unnecessary ingredient? If you want a particular characteristic in something ('creamy mouthfeel') in this case, and lactose imparts it, then it seems arbitrary to label it unnecessary.
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I'm with mccann on this one. Anything is necessary if you want the effect it imparts. Lactos is what gives milk stout its super creamy mouth feel.


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