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Don "Ho" 12-21-2008 08:14 PM

Help. Experiment gone bad.
 
Ok, My first 4 try's at the mead was great, so I decieded to get creative. All this is in a 3 gallon jug.
Here is the reciepe:
1 Campden Tablet
20 raisins
2 Navel Oranges
3 Cloves
3 Cinnamon sticks (broke in half)

I let this set for 24 hrs then added the following:
tbs of Pectic Enzyme (1 hour prior to putting in the yeast)
tbs Tannin per gallon of Must
1 pck Cote des Blancs Yeast.
(if I read the hydrometer correctly)
SG: 1.146
Alch 19%
Sugars: 37%

There was activity in the air lock for almost a full month.

This was at the end of OCT.
Today I decieded to put into 3 one gallon jugs for secondary. Measurements were this:
SG: 1.012
Alch: 3%
Took a taste and uuuccckkkkkkkkkkkkkk!!!

A small hint of orange but thats about it. The taste was disguesting. :confused:

So now where can I go from here. I was thinking about restarting in the three one gallon jugs?

Any suggestions?

Thanks for the help

Don "Ho"

Yooper 12-21-2008 08:17 PM

I think the problem might be the tannin. I would use about 1/8 teaspoon for an entire batch. It looks like you've used significantly more.

Is it astringent and harsh?

The good news is that tannin mellows with age. The bad news is that it takes years to age out.

Don "Ho" 12-21-2008 09:30 PM

Umm.. Too much tannin. Figures. Thought I was doing it right for a change. :)
The taste is just harsh and maybe like it is spoiled? But my pallet(sp) is pretty bad too!!!

Well it still needs to clear up. Is there anything I can put in there that would add some flavor, or should I just let it clear and age? Or just throw it out and start fresh!!

JoeMama 12-21-2008 10:16 PM

Just forget about it for a while. As Yooper said, it *can* mellow out. Leaving it where it is to clear might give it a chance to mellow.

Tossing it wont... Just leave it and see if it gets better or worse. If it gets better, leave it some more. If it gets worse, then toss it.
-Me

Brandon O 12-22-2008 06:12 PM

You also might want to add honey next time. I didn't see it in your recipe.

JoeMama 12-22-2008 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brandon O (Post 1022831)
You also might want to add honey next time. I didn't see it in your recipe.

LOL I totally missed that.
Good catch.
-Me

Tusch 12-22-2008 08:15 PM

Also, you appear to have a 16% very young mead (assuming there is honey haha) that won't taste particularly good for quite some time. Decently high alcohol, plus very young, plus a large amount of tannins, this will take quite some time to mellow indeed.

malkore 12-22-2008 10:41 PM

i have NEVER put tannin in any of my meads. its something you can add post fermentation...like acid blend.

add it after you know you need it...not before.

hightest 12-22-2008 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by malkore (Post 1023380)
i have NEVER put tannin in any of my meads. its something you can add post fermentation...like acid blend.

add it after you know you need it...not before.

I strongly second that point...:D

ruger12pk 12-22-2008 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by malkore (Post 1023380)
i have NEVER put tannin in any of my meads. its something you can add post fermentation...like acid blend.

add it after you know you need it...not before.


I cant say i disagree about the addition of tannin but...Ive seen many recipes that call for it, maybe the ones that do are for fruit Melomel types?...hell, I dont know!

:mug:


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