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Werewolf6851 07-11-2012 06:26 AM

Frugal
 
Greetings all,

Starting small for my first attempt at making mead. Ie using glass gallon apple juice jars.

Reading recipies leads me to believe it's usually 3 pounds of honey to gallon of water.
Is it more case 3 pounds of honey to amount water to fill 1 gallon of volume (about 3 quarts water)? Or is it exactly 1 gallon of water and 3 pounds honey for about 5 quarts of volume?

Secondly hate to throw away useful stuff, and was wondering there are uses for the sediment from first fermintation and lees from following fermintations?

Wolf

Edited to give more info.
This will be my first brewing experiance. I do miss enjoying a good honey mead!

Onihige 07-11-2012 06:41 AM

Yes - you can re-use the yeast that's going to fall to the bottom. Some say it gets better each time, though personally I doubt that.

I'll ignore the part where you mentioned barbarian units of measurements. Just kidding, though personally I don't really weigh the honey or measure up water anymore. I just mix until I hit my target OG and desired volume, takes some notes of it so I won't forget.

Edit: would be good of you to mention your brewing experience - we could give you more appropriate advice for your first batch.

Insomniac 07-11-2012 08:13 AM

Its 3lb of honey per gallon of must, you you wont add a full gallon of water, though as mentioned its worth getting a hydrometer as its really the OG you are aiming for and its always good to know where you start and finish as well as when you finish as its not really possible to tell for sure without one!

malkore 07-11-2012 10:27 PM

I would not re-use the lees for fermentation. This isn't beer...we already stress the hell of our yeast in a mead since honey is void of vitamins and nutrients (esp. nitrogen).

Making alcohol is a process of loss. You ALWAYS lose liquid, so if its bothering you to toss the yeast cake...might not be the best hobby for ya ;)

Onihige 07-12-2012 12:22 AM

And it's not like dry yeast is expensive, or hard to get.

Werewolf6851 07-12-2012 04:08 AM

Was wondering more case is it usefull adding to garden soil, etc
Wolf

Illuveatar 07-12-2012 04:25 AM

I dump the sediment from both beer and wine over my compost pile. It's an excellent source of nutrients which I wouldn't just dump down the drain or in the trash. Also the yeast help break down some of my kitchen waste. I've always thought about saving a bit and reusing the yeast for future brews. Sort of like friendship dough, I may do this if I ever find myself brewing back to back batches but generally I just buy a new packet or vial of yeast.

bk0 07-12-2012 01:48 PM

Meh. Depending on how fermentation went I would either save the entire lees, or at least a small portion (for later use to make a starter). I don't see much use in throwing perfectly good yeast away and then buying more packets of the same thing at the LHBS.

ExoticMeadMaker 07-12-2012 02:53 PM

Well dont forget about the possibility of mutations. The lees, especially after a couple of reuses, may not be the yeast you started out with. It could be better mutation, or it could be worst, but probably wont be the D47, 1116,, wyeast, whatever... that you started off with.
But I guess if you really wanted to "re-use" the lees then I guess you could always boil them and used it a yeast nutrient.

malkore 07-12-2012 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ExoticMeadMaker (Post 4245861)
Well dont forget about the possibility of mutations. The lees, especially after a couple of reuses, may not be the yeast you started out with. It could be better mutation, or it could be worst, but probably wont be the D47, 1116,, wyeast, whatever... that you started off with.
But I guess if you really wanted to "re-use" the lees then I guess you could always boil them and used it a yeast nutrient.

This. Yeast mutates...yeast adapts...yeast changes...and since its alive it does get 'too old'.

For the $1 a packet it costs, its not worth the expense to harvest and bank yeast that isn't necessarily at its peak. Maybe you're a microbiologist with a microscope who can check yeast health.
I am not...so I spend the $1.


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