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03-03-2009, 01:45 PM
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Diluting mead?
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So I went and made a highly modded JOAM with 71B-1122 and 17.5 lbs honey added to 4 gallons water.
Fermented (at 64F) down to 0.996 after 3 weeks and I now have 5.5 Gallons of a mead that has an ABV of 15.4% according to Hightest's spreadsheet (for which I am very grateful - thank you).
It tastes ok, with a strong alcohol bitterness. I want to reduce the mead to an ABV of 12-13%, sorbate etc. to prevent further fermentation and then backsweeten.
If I add 2.5 Gallons of water it will come down to an abv of 12.2%. 2 Gallons of added water will give me an abv of 13.1%.
Is this after-fermentation dilution of cooled boiled water OK? Anything I need to worry/think about?
Thanks!
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03-03-2009, 03:43 PM
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Im by no means an expert but my thought is:
While adding 2-2.5 gallons of water may very well lower your ABV it will drastically water down the other flavour components of your mead.
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03-03-2009, 03:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cugel
...If I add 2.5 Gallons of water it will come down to an abv of 12.2%. 2 Gallons of added water will give me an abv of 13.1%
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I would never add water to a finshed (or near finished) mead.
Backsweetening will also lower the ABV by dilution. After you add the sorbate & KMETA, add 2 lbs of honey. That will raise the SG to ~1.009 and lower the ABV to ~14.9%. Let that mixture rest for a couple of weeks before sampling to see if it's nearer your taste.
If not add more honey and try again...
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03-03-2009, 04:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by robsauce
Im by no means an expert but my thought is:
While adding 2-2.5 gallons of water may very well lower your ABV it will drastically water down the other flavour components of your mead.
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Rob - I never thought of that aspect of things. Thanks!
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Relax, don't worry etc. and so on.
Primaries: Old Ale, Barleywine, ESB, Scottish 80/.
Secondaries: Lime Wine, Strawberry-Banana Mead, Carmenere (from 144 lbs of grapes!), Engl. Barleywine, Modded JOAM, Concord Grape Pyment.
Kegs: Choc/Coffee Stout, Saison, Dry Stout.
Bottles: Belgian Str. Dark, Dubbel, Cider X 2, Modded JOAM, RJS Pinot Noir, RJS Aussie Cab. Sauv.
Coming soon: Blueberry Mead.
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03-03-2009, 04:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hightest
I would never add water to a finshed (or near finished) mead. 
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Why not? Diluting the flavors added through the spices/oranges?
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Originally Posted by hightest
Backsweetening will also lower the ABV by dilution. After you add the sorbate & KMETA, add 2 lbs of honey. That will raise the SG to ~1.009 and lower the ABV to ~14.9%. Let that mixture rest for a couple of weeks before sampling to see if it's nearer your taste.
If not add more honey and try again...
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I will take your suggested approach and see what happens. ~15% ABV is still somewhat too high for me.
Lesson learned, from now on I'll only use 12-13 lbs honey fermentables in meads! 
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Relax, don't worry etc. and so on.
Primaries: Old Ale, Barleywine, ESB, Scottish 80/.
Secondaries: Lime Wine, Strawberry-Banana Mead, Carmenere (from 144 lbs of grapes!), Engl. Barleywine, Modded JOAM, Concord Grape Pyment.
Kegs: Choc/Coffee Stout, Saison, Dry Stout.
Bottles: Belgian Str. Dark, Dubbel, Cider X 2, Modded JOAM, RJS Pinot Noir, RJS Aussie Cab. Sauv.
Coming soon: Blueberry Mead.
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03-03-2009, 04:23 PM
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Mix it with soda. Don't pre-dilute it... 
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03-03-2009, 05:15 PM
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Cut it with something when drinking. Much easier and you can do it to taste every time.
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03-03-2009, 05:18 PM
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Pour 4 ounces & add 1 ounce of water. Mix well and sample. I've been known to make a mead 'cooler' with 2-3 times as much soda water as mead.
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03-03-2009, 05:50 PM
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I don't think get it.
Why the big no-no on diluting pre-bottling? What is the logic?
With the exception of diluting the spices/orange flavor components I cannot think of a good reason not to dilute.
Now, keep in mind that I will follow your advice and will not dilute, I'm just trying to figure out why not.

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Relax, don't worry etc. and so on.
Primaries: Old Ale, Barleywine, ESB, Scottish 80/.
Secondaries: Lime Wine, Strawberry-Banana Mead, Carmenere (from 144 lbs of grapes!), Engl. Barleywine, Modded JOAM, Concord Grape Pyment.
Kegs: Choc/Coffee Stout, Saison, Dry Stout.
Bottles: Belgian Str. Dark, Dubbel, Cider X 2, Modded JOAM, RJS Pinot Noir, RJS Aussie Cab. Sauv.
Coming soon: Blueberry Mead.
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03-03-2009, 09:16 PM
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You are watering down every aspect of it, not just the alcohol. So proportionally you will have less flavor, less color, less alcohol, less sweetness, it will be thinner, etc.
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