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10-19-2011, 10:53 AM
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Cranberry Ginger Ale Cyser?
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or is it Cranberry Ginger Cider Braggot?
Either way I've been mulling over a recipe for something that contains these elements. I'm aiming for something >10% abv but still with a good body to it. I fear that the tartness/ bitterness of the cider/cranberries/hops will require some residual sweetness to balance it out, but I still would like something I can bottle carb.
Here is what I'm working with so far:
Cranberry Ginger Ale Cyser
Boil
Water 2 gallons for boil
crystal 40 1lbs, steeped
light dme 3lbs
malto dextrin 4 oz
bittering hops 0.5oz 60 minutes
aroma (?calypso) hops 0.5 oz 5 min
Ginger 12oz chopped: 4 oz boiled, 4 oz primary, 4 oz in secondary(titrated if too gingery already)
Primary
apple cider 3 gallons
cranberry honey 6lbs
Water to 5.5 gallons
Yeast (d47?)
Pectic enzyme
yeast nutrient
Secondary
Cranberries 3lbs in secondary
Any thoughts on this would be appreciated, I think I may be learning just enough about brewing to make something truly awful.
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10-19-2011, 11:03 AM
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More legal than crack
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I'm interested in how this turns out.
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10-19-2011, 11:03 AM
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maybe more cranberries, and I'm waiting to taste my apocalypso kit to see what the calypso hops are like. If I'm still unsure maybe I'll make a graff with them to do a test drive before doing my Sparkling Cran Ginger Graff Mead.
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10-19-2011, 10:50 PM
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All of this has happened before, and all of it will happen again:
Quote:
Originally Posted by ajwillys
Hey,
Just wanted to wrap this thread up since I started it and all. I did end up bumping the ABV pretty significantly and I think it turned out quite good. You couldn't really taste the alcohol and there lots of people that kept asking for more it despite the fact that I had 5 other homebrew's, commercial beer, wine, etc.... also available. Here's the recipe I used:
Cranberry Zinger 45 Minute Boil
OG = 1.083 (before the fruit) FG=1.016 (after everything)
6 lbs. Wheat Dry Extract
1 Bag of Brewvint Alcohol Boost
1 oz Cascade 45 Min
2 lbs Orange Blossom Honey
Yeast Nutrient
US-05 Yeast
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Pectin Enzyme
4 lbs cranberries
2 Granny Smith Apples (cored)
3 Navel Oranges (the whole thing)
After a week of fermentation, I added the stuff in the second part of the list. I just added it directly to the primary. The ABV was 8.78 before you factor in the extra from the fruit. I have no idea how to do that so I just went with 9.5% as my estimate.. close enough.
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Originally Posted by Dude
I'm REALLY tempted to get one of these going real soon--to have ready for Turkey Day. I suggest a group brew because a few have expressed interest in this. We'll include the extract brewers in this, as BYO doesn't provide an AG option and I'm in the mood to brew up a quick brew.
Any interest?
Cranberry Zinger
5 gallons
OG = 1.044 FG = 1.007
IBU = 11 SRM = 3 ABV = 4.8%
14 oz. Briess wheat dried malt extract
3.3 lbs Coopers Wheat liquid malt extract
2.0 lbs. orange blossom honey
3.0 lbs whole cranberries
2 medium navel oranges (seedless)
2 medium apples (granny smith)
1/4 tsp. yeast nutrients
1/2 tsp. pectic enzyme
1/2--2 tsp. malic acid or acid blend (optional)
4 AAU Willamette hops (30 mins)
(0.8 oz./23 g of 5% alpha acids)
Safale US-56 dried ale yeast (3 packages)
1.2 cups corn sugar (for priming)
Step by step
Bring 1.5 gallons of water to a boil and add dried malt extract and hops. Boil for 30 minutes, adding yeast nutients with 15 minutes remaining in boil. After boil, shut off heat and stir in liquid malt extract and honey. Put lid on pot and let hot wort sit for 15 minutes before cooling. Cool wort and transfer to fermenter. Add water to make 5 gallons, aerate, and pitch yeast. Ferment at 68F degrees. Let ferment until completion. Make cranberry relish by combining cranberries, apples (cored) and whole oranges (rind and all) in a grinder or food processor, chop to cranberry relish consitency. Put cranberry relish at bottom of sanitized bucket, rack beer on top of it and add pectic enzyme. After 7-10 days of contact with relish, bottle or keg beer. Adjust acidity with malic acid, if desired. Bottled or keg and carbonate so beer is fizzy.
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Just some additional food for thought on this one.
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10-30-2011, 11:53 PM
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Maybe for the yeast I'll use 71b to cut through some of the acid in this one.
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10-31-2011, 02:33 AM
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Very curious on this one :-)
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12-05-2011, 12:44 AM
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Brew day came and went with this one and it bubbling away now. I stuck to the recipe as posted with a few exceptions.
Grains: I had some extra lying around so I used 1 lb crystal 40 and .5 lb crystal 20
Hops: Yakima goldings boiled 30 minutes in 1.5 gallons water with 1 gallon cider
Ginger 8 oz in boil, 8 oz in primary
Cider topped up with 3.5 gallons so final volume was closer to 6 gallons
Cranberries: 10 oz in primary ( one o the bags opened and was spilling so I tossed it in) 50 oz frozen to be added to secondary
Yeast: 71b
Gravity: 1.10, although some of the honey may still have been clumped despite my vigorous whipping.
Secondary: I'll rack and add the cranberries (maybe with some orange zest) once fermentation slows
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12-21-2011, 06:35 AM
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Well, I don't think it would be a braggot lol. The definition of a braggot is a mead with malt, and optionally hops. Since you don't have malt, wouldn't it be a Hopped Cranberry Ginger Ale Cyser? I think that would be a better word anyways.
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12-21-2011, 07:12 PM
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3lbs light dme with steeped grains were also added to my honey fortified cran-ginger graff!
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12-21-2011, 09:15 PM
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The ginger sounds nice. Is it still in the primary? Have you had a sample taste?
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