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01-02-2012, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by turtlescales
I plan on doing a bochet in the next week or two, just a single gallon batch. New at this, and starting with 3 single gallons of different styles to get a feel for mead making and this will be the last for a bit. Probably. Maybe. I am wondering, how large a pot I would need to accommodate 3.5 lbs of caramelizing honey? The SO and I moved to Texas recently, and left a lot of stuff behind and I am uncertain if my current pot is up to the task.
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I would recommend a pot of at least 3-4 times the volume of honey...the honey will expand quite dramatically when it boils.
I'd use at least a gallon size pot...
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02-05-2012, 06:55 PM
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Racked my batches of bochet today. They're both at SG 1.060 (OG was 1.150), so current ABV is ~12%. Snuck a taste. They're still sweet, but the burned taste seems to dominate a bit too much, especially in the aftertaste. Hopefully that'll mellow out over time.
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02-05-2012, 07:37 PM
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Did you caramelize or actually take it to almost burnt?
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02-05-2012, 07:56 PM
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I actually racked mine over a bit ago as well. Didn't test it, but it was fairly dry, but the alcohol dominated all the flavors. I'm going to let it sit for 6 months...
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02-06-2012, 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by PaddyMurphy
Racked my batches of bochet today. They're both at SG 1.060 (OG was 1.150), so current ABV is ~12%. Snuck a taste. They're still sweet, but the burned taste seems to dominate a bit too much, especially in the aftertaste. Hopefully that'll mellow out over time.
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What kind of flavours did you taste? Vanilla? Floral? Bitter? Caramel? Chocolate? Cocoa? Coffee? Honey? Maple? Treacle? Biscuit?
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02-06-2012, 06:30 AM
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Burned, kind of like the distinct burned part of the taste you can get from stout. It wasn't unpleasant, but I think I may have either left the honey on to boil too long or not used high enough quality stuff.
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02-06-2012, 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by PaddyMurphy
Burned, kind of like the distinct burned part of the taste you can get from stout. It wasn't unpleasant, but I think I may have either left the honey on to boil too long or not used high enough quality stuff.
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Huh. So no other tastes other than burnt? If you wanted to be optimistic you could say "dark toffee", rather than burnt.  Well, maybe bottle it in small bottles and have one every 4 months or so. The burnt flavours might subside and give way to softer, caramel flavours and such.
Q: Are you going to carbonate it?
Q: Do you like stout? I like sweet stouts (ie "Young's Double Chocolate Stout"), but can only stand a couple of mouthfuls of dry stouts.
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02-06-2012, 01:32 PM
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If all else fails it will be a good candidate for blending... braggot anyone? 
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02-06-2012, 08:12 PM
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This looks tasty and easy. Thinking I'll need to source some honey since I have two empty 3 gallon carboys at home. Thinking I'll make an extra gallon as well so that I can top up with the same when I rack.
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02-06-2012, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by BargainFittings
Did you caramelize or actually take it to almost burnt?
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It was pretty freaking dark. In the carboy it looked black, but while going through the racking tube it seemed to have a very dark red color instead.
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Originally Posted by Pith
Huh. So no other tastes other than burnt? If you wanted to be optimistic you could say "dark toffee", rather than burnt.  Well, maybe bottle it in small bottles and have one every 4 months or so. The burnt flavours might subside and give way to softer, caramel flavours and such.
Q: Are you going to carbonate it?
Q: Do you like stout? I like sweet stouts (ie "Young's Double Chocolate Stout"), but can only stand a couple of mouthfuls of dry stouts.
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I do like stout. That's why I was saying it tasting burned wasn't a bad thing.
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Bottled - Blueberry Melomel, Christmas Metheglin
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