The Great Bottle Opener Giveaway

Home Brew Forums > Wine, Mead, Cider, Sake & Soda > Mead Forum > Blackberry Melomel question

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 06-29-2012, 11:56 PM   #1
zipmont
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: clinton, wa
Posts: 50
Default Blackberry Melomel question

Blackberry season is just around the corner, and I have melomel on my mind. I made some pretty good stuff last year, but had an issue. After secondary ferment was complete, I had about a gallon on some sort of gel/pectin like substance which had precipitated out on the bottom. I never used pectic enzyme, but have never had this issue in the past.

I have also heard that you shouldn't squeeze the pulp bag too hard when transferring from primary to secondary or else this sort of thing is bound to happen, which seems like a terrible waste of valuable juice and flavor. Perhaps squeezing all the juice out of the bag necessitates extra enzymes?

Or is there something else that could be causing this?

__________________
zipmont is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-02-2012, 08:32 PM   #2
daksin
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
daksin's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 4,093
Liked 271 Times on 237 Posts
Likes Given: 323

Default

Going to bump this because I'm contemplating the same thing for my next berry melomel.

__________________

I can't be arsed to keep up this list of what's in the fermenters, but hey, check out the cool brewery I own!

twitter.com/2kidsbrewing .. facebook.com/2kidsbrewing .. 2kidsbrewing.com

daksin is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-02-2012, 08:53 PM   #3
Goofynewfie
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Posts: 1,453
Liked 218 Times on 155 Posts
Likes Given: 23

Default

Not sure of the cause but instead of squeezing the bag why not just let it drip overnight?

__________________

You cant always be young but you can always be immature

Goofynewfie is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-02-2012, 08:57 PM   #4
Golddiggie
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Nashua, NH
Posts: 12,056
Liked 472 Times on 417 Posts
Likes Given: 266

Default

I froze and mashed the blackberries for my batch. I used a potato masher for this, which made it easy. I didn't use the enzyme either and didn't have any issue like that.

__________________
Hopping Tango Brewery

跟猴子比丟屎 ・ Gun HOE-tze bee DIO-se

On Tap: Caramel Ale, Mocha Porter II, MO SMaSH IPA
Waiting/Carbonating: 12.5% Wee Honey II, 8.9% Old Ale, English Brown Ale, Lickah ESB, Mocha Porter II
Fermenting
K1:
K2: Epic mead
K3: TripSix
On Deck: Caramel Ale
Aging:mead
Mead [bottled]:Oaked Wildflower Traditional, Mocha Madness, Blackberry Melomel, maple wine
Golddiggie is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-03-2012, 06:32 AM   #5
zipmont
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: clinton, wa
Posts: 50
Default

Thanks for the replies. I freeze my berries too. Usually works like a charm, even without enzymes.

Perhaps the overnight drip would do the trick, but after my last experience I'd be worried that even that might let more through than I wanted. I guess I should split the next batch and do the ole' bench trials thing ...

Thanks again

__________________
zipmont is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-03-2012, 12:48 PM   #6
Golddiggie
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Nashua, NH
Posts: 12,056
Liked 472 Times on 417 Posts
Likes Given: 266

Default

I wouldn't do the drip overnight. Leaving the fermenting must exposed like that, IMO, isn't a good idea.

__________________
Hopping Tango Brewery

跟猴子比丟屎 ・ Gun HOE-tze bee DIO-se

On Tap: Caramel Ale, Mocha Porter II, MO SMaSH IPA
Waiting/Carbonating: 12.5% Wee Honey II, 8.9% Old Ale, English Brown Ale, Lickah ESB, Mocha Porter II
Fermenting
K1:
K2: Epic mead
K3: TripSix
On Deck: Caramel Ale
Aging:mead
Mead [bottled]:Oaked Wildflower Traditional, Mocha Madness, Blackberry Melomel, maple wine
Golddiggie is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-03-2012, 12:55 PM   #7
fatbloke
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: UK - South Coast.
Posts: 2,603
Liked 163 Times on 150 Posts
Likes Given: 21

Default

Well, its my understanding, that pretty much all fruit has some pectin. So it makes sense to hit it with pectic enzyme once the must is mixed.

Even if its not needed, it seems that it also helps with colour and flavour extraction. So as it doesn't (apparently) cause any flavour/taste issues, why not......

__________________

"What the large print giveth, the small print taketh away". Tom Waits.

Oh, and here's some blog stuff!

fatbloke is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 07-03-2012, 08:59 PM   #8
zipmont
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: clinton, wa
Posts: 50
Default

I tend to agree with the use of pectic enzyme. There seem to be no drawbacks and several advantages. My guess is that I got lucky in the past without enzymes, for reasons that I didn't even understand. Perhaps the ripeness of the fruit played in, which undoubtedly varies year to year. Or perhaps it was something else.

In any case, it seems my next approach should be to just add the appropriate enzymes and do my usual squeezing of the bag when removing from primary, in order to see what effect the enzymes alone have.

Thanks for the feedback -

__________________
zipmont is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply


Quick Reply
Message:
Options
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Blackberry Melomel...not enough water? Ace_Club Mead Forum 13 10-25-2012 11:49 AM
Blackberry Vanilla Melomel Hrahn1995 Mead Forum 9 06-03-2012 10:42 PM
blackberry melomel question regulatedhobbyist Mead Forum 6 02-01-2012 03:54 AM
Blackberry melomel: Story and question on clearing... mindghost Mead Forum 5 05-28-2010 08:52 AM
Blackberry Melomel -- finished? esarkipato Mead Forum 11 12-29-2008 08:01 PM