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Old 02-14-2012, 12:43 PM   #1
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Turned on the news this morning and this is one of the top stories:
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/10724457/

To summarize it: a lady in a town about an hour north of me starting keeping bees in her back yard last March, and the town passed an ordinance last May saying all bee hives had to be at least 75 feet from a neighbor's property line. The woman refused to take her beehives down, and is now facing possible jail time.

So, let the discussion begin. Do her neighbors have a legitimate concern? Is she in the wrong for not obeying a law that was passed after the fact? Is the town wrong to pass such a law?

It should be noted that honeybees are the official NC state insect, and are kept at the governor's mansion in downtown Raleigh, as well as at several local children's science museums in the middle of cities.

And... discuss.

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Old 02-14-2012, 01:18 PM   #2
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A buddy of mine would love this. A guy behind his small lot has some bees and he hates it. I keep asking him to get me some honey.

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I would say to move it for safety reasons. Even though the law was passed after the fact. Bees can be relocated with no issues as long as the queen stays alive. I'm also allergic.

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I believe that it is a constitutional right. However, I don't think that it is a right that cannot be restricted. See the right to own guns.

Generally speaking one's rights end the moment that they infringe upon another person's rights. While it is acceptable to have bees in your yard, if you cannot keep your bees in your yard and they cause physical or emotional stress on your neighbor, well that is not acceptable.

If I have 8 dogs, I will have issues if I cannot keep them in my yard. Perhaps more specifically, if I keep chickens for eggs, I also must keep them from bothering my neighbors.

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I suppose the lawyers aren't aware that bees travel 2-3 miles from their hive daily.
Ya, 75 feet, that will make a HUGE difference.
I do believe that people should do whats "right" when its not a big deal, but there is probably much more to the story than the news team is reporting about.

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My neighbor thought he had the right to allow his ugly, viscous dogs to roam free in our neighborhood. That right ended when it attacked my son in my backyard and I beat that mangy POS to death with a baseball bat! The cops showed up and I was arrested! Fortunately for me the charges were dismissed by a judge who actually had a brain! He told everyone in court that day that I did what any father who cared for his children would do. He castigated the local PD and DA for even thinking about charging me with a crime over this.

Final chapter of this story is that my neighbor still allowed his idiot canine menaces to roam free after that. One attacked another child in the neighborhood and the authorities had it put down this time!

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My neighbor thought he had the right to allow his ugly, viscous dog to roam free in our neighborhood. That right ended when it attacked my son in my backyard and I beat that mangy POS to death with a baseball bat! The cops showed up and I was arrested! Fortunately for me the charges were dismissed by a judge who actually had a brain! He told everyone in court that day that I did what any father who cared for his children would do. He castigated the local PD and DA for even thinking about charging me with a crime over this.

Final chapter of this story is that my neighbor still allowed his idiot canine menace to roam free after that. It attacked another child in the neighborhood and the authorities had it put down this time!
I thought you killed the dog? Did he have 2?
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I thought you killed the dog? Did he have 2?
Maybe that's why they arrested you...abusing instead of killing.
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"Generally speaking one's rights end the moment that they infringe upon another person's rights"

I believe this would work both ways. Regardless, the woman had her bees prior to the law and should not have to move them. I wonder if anyone actually tried asking her nicely or if they just threatened her with the law?

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My mistake guys (post corrected). I should have said dogs! He had two doberman and one rottweiler. I put one of the doberman's out of it's misery. One of the remaining doberman was put down by the town after the second attack and he still has the rottweiler left. It was the oldest of the three dogs he had and is kept inside now. I only see it when he takes out on the leash to do his duty. He finally learned his lesson about what it means to be a good neighbor.

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