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Old 09-12-2013, 03:35 AM   #1
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Mixed up a vanilla/Earl grey tea mead in January of 2012. Og was 1.24, it is done fermenting and has been done for a few months now. I have racked 3 or 4 times, I would have to check my notes to be sure. There is hardly any sediment in the Carboy. The last time I racked I added a dose of sparkalloid per the instructions. This was 10 weeks ago and the mead is still pretty cloudy. I would like to get it bottled so I can give some away for weddings we have coming up.

Anything else I can do or do I just need to wait it out? There has not been any additional sediment drop out lately, but this mead is nowhere near as clear as the wine I have next to it.

I realize it is not ready to drink, and wouldn't be giving it away with the intentions for it to be drank until next year.

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Old 09-12-2013, 04:54 AM   #2
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If it is still having trouble clearing at this point, I'd hit it with some clarifying agents of your choice.

I've never kept a mead that long; mine are much lower OG and I do tier yeast nutrient additions. They are ready in a few months.

I can't imagine it wouldn't be clear and well-aged by next year if you use clarifying agents.



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So you think another round of sparkolloid is in order? Not sure why, but it makes me nervous using a clarifying agent a second time. The last thing I want is a weird off flavor because I was not patient enough.

I followed staggered nutrient additions along with degassing up to the 1/3rd break.

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I don't use Sparkalloid, so I don't know about the flavor.

Bentonite is pretty flavorless and all the trub goes to the bottom and you rack off of it.

Isinglass is tasteless, as far as I can tell, and I put some on my tongue. I understand it works better than all the others, but I haven't noticed a difference between it and Bentonite.

I think I remember reading at one point that Bentonite is used to clarify other clarifying agents. It does taste like mud though--I can imagine if you use too much of it or let it sit on it too long it will impart negative tastes.

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Spark does negative charged floaties and Bentonite does positive...... or is it the other way around? Sorry I'm too tired to look it up. Regardless, fining using 2 agents (long as they're not redundant... - /- or +/+) could be beneficial.

Could always try cold crashing. If it's yeast you're seeing, that should work.

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Kiesol and chitosan 2 part finings.....

Tasteless and generally vvv quick....

Which ever way round it is with sparkolloid and bentonite, persistent cloudiness suggests you need to try the other one......

And no they don't leave residual flavour......

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Stovetop I've had the same issue. I've had a mead sitting for 6 months that's still cloudy and one that is 2 months beside it and is very clear (naturally). I've added the 2 part - Kiesol and chitosan to the cloudy one about 2.5 months ago and nothing. I currently have it sitting in the fridge for a few days to see if that will help.

Mines just a plain mead...I'm pretty sure I've heard that sometimes honey just won't clear...based on it's chemical makeup. Anyone else hear this?

If it doesn't clear in a couple days I'm planning to bottle it. I don't think its cloudy due to suspended yeast...I think its just the honey. Will taste great regardless of if I can see through it.

I've used sparkloid in the past and it has worked great! Would use now but can't find it and don't care as much.

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Sounds like I will try another round of finings followed by cold crashing if that does not work. I will see what other finings the lhbs has. Hopefully something else will clear it up.

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Spark does negative charged floaties and Bentonite does positive...... or is it the other way around? Sorry I'm too tired to look it up. Regardless, fining using 2 agents (long as they're not redundant... - /- or +/+) could be beneficial.
This. I usually hit cloudy meads with Bentonite first, then sparkolloid. One will get the positive particles, the other will get the negative particles. If that doesn't work, I break out the big guns--SuperKleerKC (kieselsol and chitosan).
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Just wanted to update this, I purchased some bentonite and added it on 9/18. I know it has only been about 24 hours, but so far it looks no better. One question about the bentonite, what purpose does letting it sit for 24 hours before adding serve? The directions stated mix 2.5 tsp with 2.5 cups hot water and let sit for 24 hours before adding. Seemed strange to me, considering after a few hours it was mixed up and had cooled to room temp.



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