Real close. It morphed over time. The hops started differntly, using Clusters and Northern Brewers. But I like it better with the Columbus. The grain bill is really close and the yeast is the same.
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Real close. It morphed over time. The hops started differntly, using Clusters and Northern Brewers. But I like it better with the Columbus. The grain bill is really close and the yeast is the same.
Excellent.
I posted in another thread somewhere: I love the all-columbus hopping schedule. I decided at the last minute this time to substitute cascade for the flavor hop addition. I love columbus for bittering and for aroma but sometimes it seems a touch on the course side for flavor hops. We'll see how this turns out.
I bet commercial craft brewers are going to start using columbus more: you get a lot of bang for the buck, and using dual-purpose hops has got to be especially cost-efficient for large operations.
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Bottle conditioning: Robust Porter
Drinking: Saison Dupont clone, tripel
Coming soon: Columbus APA, Rich Red ale
By that do you mean pure distribution with no brewing, or are you talking a package only micro with no pub?
No, just brewing to sell to the distributor. No pub involved. I've been approached by a couple people who are very interested in investing in something like this. And I guessed around 250k for a decent brewhouse. I also learned that I am zoned outside of the city, as long as the brewery isnt bigger than 25% of my property, I can do it on my own land. I have 3 acres so I may be able to pull it off. Ive contacted ATF, everyone I needed to in the city, and the two local distributors call once a week now for a progress update. They are willing to take up to 50k cases a year, which just blows my mind. The thing is, I live in a smaller town of ~80k people, and no local beers are produced here. I figure the first one to open will do great.And as hesitant as I am about this, things are falling into place almost too easy.
But it sounds like it was some hard but rewarding work for you. Im just wondering how I would fit brewing school into my schedule right now. Maybe I could go be a brewers bitch for a couple weeks up in Tempe.
Ok, enough morning rambling......
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Chimone, you've got to go for that. Sounds like a great opportunity given the purchase commitment the distributors are offering. I know you said somewhere that the wife was interested in running a brewpub as well, it sounds like you would be back-burnering that at least until you got the micro up and running (which I think it the right decision).
Best of luck, I'm sure it will be a TON of hard work but you'll still be the envy of everyone here!
...and the two local distributors call once a week now for a progress update. They are willing to take up to 50k cases a year, which just blows my mind. The thing is, I live in a smaller town of ~80k people, and no local beers are produced here. I figure the first one to open will do great
Just talking out my arse here, but it seems like getting your brew on tap, in some local venues anyway, would also be a big part of the equation. A lot of higher-end bar drinkers will almost automatically order the local brew if it looks interesting. The bar (as compared to the liquor store) strinkes me as a place where people are morelikely to try something new.
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Primary: none
Secondary:
Bottle conditioning: Robust Porter
Drinking: Saison Dupont clone, tripel
Coming soon: Columbus APA, Rich Red ale
Just talking out my arse here, but it seems like getting your brew on tap, in some local venues anyway, would also be a big part of the equation. A lot of higher-end bar drinkers will almost automatically order the local brew if it looks interesting. The bar (as compared to the liquor store) strinkes me as a place where people are morelikely to try something new.
Very true, and being that Ive been in this town for entirely too long, I know all the local bar owners on a personal basis. Ive spoken to every one in town, and they are more than willing to put my beer on tap. Not to mention SWMBO is the manager of the largest bar in town. She has put the word out allready that this is a possibility in the near future, and the response is amazing.
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