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Old 07-03-2011, 04:26 PM   #11
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That's probably a great idea. It does take quite a long time to cool down the kettle flowing back. Do you have a FB? If you do no real need to whirlpool. One thing about it taking longer is everything has time to settle leaving it pretty clear. I suppose it leaves room for an infection to get in. What I am planning on next is to prechill my CFC water first. I think this will bring it down pretty quickly.
no false bottom, or else I wouldn't be whirlpooling

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Old 07-03-2011, 04:28 PM   #12
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Old 07-03-2011, 05:04 PM   #13
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Hop Spider. I still get a bunch of hop pellet residue in the fermentor, but I don't think that is a bid deal.

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Old 07-03-2011, 05:05 PM   #14
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Hop Spider. I still get a bunch of hop pellet residue in the fermentor, but I don't think that is a bid deal.
Nope, no worries there!
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Old 07-03-2011, 05:11 PM   #15
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I use a CFC and whirlpool in my boil keggle as well. but I found trying to whirlpool and chill at the same time is counter productive. putting the chilled wort back into the keggle of hot wort takes longer to cool down, at the same time the CFC is a bottle neck when it comes to whirlpooling. SO I think my next brew I'll just chill first in my CFC into another vessel possible my HLT. then pump it back via my whirlpool inlet creating a solid whirl pool leaving cold break out of my Primary.

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I had the same problem with my CFC so I broke out my old immersion chiller and us it until the wort is under 100F, then put the CFC in an ice bath and using my pump I recirculate back to the kettle. It takes more ice but I can get 11 gallons down to 55F in 30 minutes.
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yeah, i use a hop spider, and it works like a charm!

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Old 07-03-2011, 06:47 PM   #17
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Have any of you tried putting a stainless sponge/scrubber underneath the dip tube? I've been thinking about trying this. Is it effective with pellet hops?

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Old 07-03-2011, 07:02 PM   #18
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Dont worry about liquid loss, a small adjustment to your recipe/procedure will make up for it.

I use a dedicate whirlpool vessel and pump over to it through my cfc. I then chill by recirculating back into the whirlpool through CFC until I get to temp. Once there I take the CFC out of the loop and get a proper whirlpool going. Let sit for 20min and then pump to my fermenter.

I leave much of the junk in the kettle and even more in the whirlpool vessel.

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IMO, it could possibly be the difference between a great beer and an excellent beer.
Maybe- but I think the line between "great" and "excellent" is not well defined. I make some pretty good beers that I would put against any other in the world.

I don't have any issues at all with chill haze, and I keg my beers at about day 10-14 after brewing. So far, this has worked extraodinarily well and I'm not going to change.

Cold break in the fermenter isn't going to cause off flavors, while hot break might. I think everyone needs to do what works best for them, but I don't want anyone to be afraid that they have to whirlpool for xxxx minutes to avoid cold break into the fermenter. A lengthy cooldown might cause more flavor issues than some cold break in the fermenter.
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Old 07-04-2011, 03:50 AM   #20
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everyone is correct. use a false bottom and some whole leaf hops. use a 90 turn to the side. Pull some trub and cold break into primary with a nice hoppy ipa. and try to leave as much as possible for a kolsch or golden.

I use a 15 gal polarware with a 90 copper elbow to the side dremeled to curve to the side. I have to turn it on its side about 2 gal left while pumping through my homemade cfc to get the last bit, but am very careful not to start pulling too much trub once the kettle jerks too much.

Personally, after flameout, whirlpool gently for 1 minute, and let it sit for 20 minutes. I try to rush it and start running off after 10 min, but i still get a lot of cold break in the primary. Times where I get busy and let the kettle sit for 20-30 min, I get a lot less cold break in the primary. Let the whirlpool and rest run its course and have patience. rdwhahb!

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