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Old 11-12-2014, 01:03 PM   #201
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running on 120, that 240v is going to be a equivlient to a 250w element, also known as pointless. So defiantly the first 120 one over the other one.
Your not understanding at all, I was never talking about running any of these elements at any other voltage than what they are designed for,
the first link is a 120v rated element rated at 1000w output....

The second link is a 240v rated element also rated at 1000w output...

They are the same size and length... the are just wired differently internally to produce the same heat with different voltages. So someone limited to 120v would want to select the first choice and someone running 240v would choose the second.... in the earlier comments it was implied that an effective rims tube couldnt be made with 120v vs 220 and I was simply stating that it doesnt matter if you have 120v or 220... just select the appropriate element prior to building... the only reson people run the larger 220v elements at 120v is because they provide too much heat for a rims application and they provide very low watt density this way and the 120v standard hot water heater elements are generally too short with little surface area in contact for too short a time...... with small long cartridge heaters this is not an issue.
I run my 1000w element at the full 240v and can assure you there is NO scorching at all... The longer the element the lower the watt density, you can find these 1000w elements in lengths up to a few ft long.... this makes them actually a better choice than what most people are using...
just like comparing a longer herms coil to a short one.
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Old 11-12-2014, 01:10 PM   #202
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Your not understanding at all, the first link is a 120v rated element rated at 1000w output....
The second link is a 240v rated element also rated at 1000w output... They are the same size and length... the are just wired differently internally to produce the same heat with different voltages.
I'm sure he knows that. I think the problem is, he's assuming that you're going to run the 240v heater on 120v, which is what I also assumed initially. You didn't make that very clear.
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Old 11-12-2014, 01:17 PM   #203
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I'm sure he knows that. I think the problem is, he's assuming that you're going to run the 240v heater on 120v, which is what I also assumed initially. You didn't make that very clear.
I was editing when you typed that...
I stated I built a small cheap rims tube that works well ...he later asked if it runs on 120v or 220v I stated 220 but you could find 120v elements with the same output and watt density...

I believe I was being pretty clear on page 19 but I understand the what the misunderstanding is now...
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Old 11-13-2014, 11:30 PM   #204
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Old 11-21-2014, 03:07 PM   #205
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I ordered the parts yesterday. Can't wait to try this.

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Old 11-21-2014, 03:18 PM   #206
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PopTarts

I really appreciate this thread.
I built one similar to yours

I had a pump
I had a 3 gallon pot - from my old extract days
I had a Johnson Comptroller, left over from a keezer build
I repurposed my Copper Wort chiller - 25 ft of 1/2 inch

All I had to buy was the new QD for the wort chiller & a Hot Plate !

It has taken me a couple of brews to figure out how to keep the right temp in my Mash tun, but it works real good

Thanks ! (This is actually a picture of me moving water into the MT , not recirculating )

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Old 11-21-2014, 03:50 PM   #207
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PopTarts

I really appreciate this thread.
I built one similar to yours

I had a pump
I had a 3 gallon pot - from my old extract days
I had a Johnson Comptroller, left over from a keezer build
I repurposed my Copper Wort chiller - 25 ft of 1/2 inch

All I had to buy was the new QD for the wort chiller & a Hot Plate !

It has taken me a couple of brews to figure out how to keep the right temp im my Mash tun, but it works real good

Thanks !
Nice glad to hear.
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Old 01-11-2015, 12:08 AM   #208
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I used my system for the first time brewing today. Worked very well. Thanks poptarts for the idea.

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Old 01-11-2015, 01:05 AM   #209
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I've been using this system to keep my mash temps the same over the hour long mash. Plus the benefit of having clearer wort helps as well. Suits my needs to have a better mash and a higher quality wort.

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