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Old 01-26-2011, 02:51 AM   #1
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Default capacitor to motor or mill - wiring help

I'm not real savy with wireing a capacitor. I have a small 2 amp, 170 RPM gear motor for my mill. It came with a capacitor. I'd like to have 2 switches, one for on/off, and the other for for/rev. I know i run the ground and the neutral directly to the motor. The black (hot) is run directly to one of the 2 remaining wires on the motor and the other needs to be connected via the capacitor? Is this correct?

How about if i want ot do the switch method that i talked about? Do i Hook up both wires from the capacitor to both leads on the motor wiht a 3-way switch that moves power from the hot to either of the wires on the capacitor.

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All of this really depends on the motor you are using. Ok... What motor? Do you have a link to it?

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Old 01-26-2011, 03:12 AM   #3
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I have this motor and wired it. I can send you my sketch tomorrow.

You can use an ON-OFF-ON switch to eliminate the need for two switches.

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Hey kegtoe, glad to see you're moving forward with motorizing your mill. I set up the same motor for CW rotation and followed the same wiring diagram you have. I put my switch on neutral between the motor and the power cord. I ran the blue wire to one of the capacitor pins. It shows up red in the photo because I used a red wire to extend the blue motor wire to the capacitor. I used 12 - 10 gauge AMP female disconnects to connect to the capacitor plug. Then I connected the black wire from the motor to the opposite capacitor pin set with the same kind of connector. Finally I took the black wire from the power cord and connected it to the same pin set on the capacitor that the black wire from the motor is attached to. I'm not great with wiring diagrams, but this fired up on my first shot.


I also found this wiring diagram that Henrythe9th posted in another thread if you want to set up CW and CCW.

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Thanks mister, i gues i'm not sure on how/what a capacitor does and works. If i want to have the for/rev that i'm looking for do i run the hot to each set on the capacitor, then the lead to each of the motor leads. ORRRRR, do i run two hots to one set and two leads to the oter set?

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Does this look correct? The first switch would be an on/of the second being forward, reverse. I want the 2 switches, not a on(for)/off/on(rev)

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A capacitor stores a charge that helps get the motor running. I'm sure there's a better description out there. For both CW and CCW it looks like you wire up the capacitor where both blue and black wires from the motor terminate on opposite pins of the capacitor, then you run separate blue and black from the remaining pins to your toggle switch. Blue for CCW position and black for CW position. Hot (black) from your power cord should terminate with the toggle switch. Neutral (white) from the motor will simply connect to neutral from your power cord. All the toggle switch does is switch what starter winding leads are used which as I understand it, determines which direction the motor turns. Keep in mind, I'm no electrician.

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I made up a diagram for you using 2 switches - 1 for motor direction and the other On/Off:



I also made a diagram using a single switch - It is a "Center Off" switch:



BTW: I left the Surplus Center info in place so that others can identify the motor that the diagram was drawn for.

I hope this helps you.
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