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Old 03-09-2009, 10:52 PM   #1
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Default CF Chiller vs. IC Chiller

My current chilling set up is horrible, I have lined a laundry basket with trash bags and put in pot in there to chill because my sink is too small for my pot. I want to build a chiller but I wanted to see a discussion of which type is better for me. Obviously a CF is going to be a bit more expensive, but what other pros/cons can you guys provide?

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Old 03-09-2009, 11:11 PM   #2
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There are a couple different ways you can set up a IC. The first is pretty standard in that you just put the coil in your wort and run tap water through it from a hose. This works pretty well but can be less efficient in the warmer months. The second way is to run two coils. The second coil will be the same as before, but the first will be placed in a bucket full of ice water. This is called pre-chilling and works wonders for cooling times. However, you have to have two coils and still waste quite a bit of water, if that is a problem to you.

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A CFC runs beer through an inner-coil, and fluid (tap water, chilled water, or refrigerant) through the outer coil. The advantage of this is you can cool in one pass, but you have to run your wort through the coil. This usually means you need a pump, unless you can gravity feed it.

It all depends on your individual needs and how far you are willing to go. All of the aforementioned setups work well for many people.

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I understand the difference between the two and their operation, I am just looking for people to convince me one way or the other what I need.

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Hard to say without a bit more information.

Are you doing all grain?

does your brew kettle have a spigot on it?

where are you doing your brewing? (kitchen, garage, etc)

what is your budget?

is water a scarce resource where you live?

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I personally have never used a CFC. First I used a simple IC, then I added a second to pre-chill (I lived in Vegas....great for the below freezing winters, horrible for the summers at 120)

However, it always bothered me that I was wasting so much water. A CFC would help this a little, or you could go the way I recently just setup....a coil in ice water and the beer recirculated through the coil. Only a waste of 10 gallons or so.

So, if you are looking for a vote, I say CFC or IC the way I do to not waste water

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Sorry, but a little hijacking........


Hopaholic -- Where in OC are you from?
I grew up in Mission Viejo

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Hard to say without a bit more information.

Are you doing all grain?

does your brew kettle have a spigot on it?

where are you doing your brewing? (kitchen, garage, etc)

what is your budget?

is water a scarce resource where you live?
Not yet. Will move there in the future.

No, just a pot right now.

In the kitchen for now, in the next few batches I'm going to score a turkey fryer.

Budget is tight, but not terrible.

Water is NOT scarce.
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Well,

Since you do not have a spigot.....I would go IC.

CFC is not impossible without a spigot, but it would take some interesting work........

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Immersion chillers are less efficient, but are a cinch to sanitize. You just drop them in the kettle during the last few minutes of the boil.

CFCs are a bit more difficult to sanitze and clean- you have to run sanitizer through them before you chill, and some kind of rinse afterward, but they are more efficient. They can chill five gallons a lot faster.

That's about it as far as I'm concerned, now it's up to you.

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If you're concerned with sanitization then the IC is the way to go.... I've only witnessed the pita the CFC is, never owned one. If you get enough tubing into the kettle you'll start to encroach on the CFC's efficiency #'s lol.

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