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Old 05-14-2014, 06:57 PM   #321
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Hello JonW,

I just had a quick question about your rig. I am designing my build after yours and I noticed that you only have mechanical valves connected to the pumps but not the kettles. Was wondering why you made this choice and how it has been working for you.

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Old 05-14-2014, 07:12 PM   #322
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I just had a quick question about your rig. I am designing my build after yours and I noticed that you only have mechanical valves connected to the pumps but not the kettles. Was wondering why you made this choice and how it has been working for you.
The electric valves on the pumps are either on or off - there is no throttling in between. That is the reason for the manual return valves at the top of the kettles. The position there serves two purposes: one is to be able to throttle the liquid during fly sparging to get the runoff rate I want. Two is by being located at the top, I can throttle the flow while also looking at the flow at the same time (instead of bending over to adjust a valve, look in kettle, bend over again, etc.).

As for the manual valves on the kettle output, those are always on when a hose is connected, so there is no reason to have automated valves to turn them on and off.
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Old 05-14-2014, 07:20 PM   #323
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Two is by being located at the top, I can throttle the flow while also looking at the flow at the same time (instead of bending over to adjust a valve, look in kettle, bend over again, etc.).
You'd think this would be a small thing, but I think about installing a valve at the top of my kettles on the return port for just this reason every time I brew.. *ow, my back*
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Old 05-14-2014, 07:25 PM   #324
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You'd think this would be a small thing, but I think about installing a valve at the top of my kettles on the return port for just this reason every time I brew.. *ow, my back*
LOL, yeah it helps on the back, but for me it was more about the eye-hand coordination. When I look at the flow at the same time I adjust it, I hit the right flow pretty much spot-on the first time. On my old rig where I was bending over, then looking in the kettle, it would sometimes take 2 or 3 adjustments to get the flow rate I wanted.
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Old 05-14-2014, 08:54 PM   #325
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I am trying to make a system that is as automated as possible. With this in mind would I benefit from installing motorized valves at the bottom of the kettles?


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Old 05-14-2014, 09:21 PM   #326
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I am trying to make a system that is as automated as possible. With this in mind would I benefit from installing motorized valves at the bottom of the kettles?
I see no benefit to it and several reasons not to.

- Additional cost of valves and relays.
- You don't open/close those valves during brewing.
- You would need to have some sort of wiring disconnect on them for when you remove your kettles for cleaning.
- You would need to ensure you don't get the valves too wet while cleaning. They can take splashes, but they're not meant to get completely wet.
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Ok then, very good! That keeps it simpler.


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Jon do you have a picture of your recent improvements to your brew rig? I'm getting geared up to build mine and may copy some of your ideas.Thanks in advance

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Jon do you have a picture of your recent improvements to your brew rig? I'm getting geared up to build mine and may copy some of your ideas.Thanks in advance
No, I haven't taken any recently. The first pic in the thread was updated when I moved the gas rail/valves to the front of the rig. It pretty much looks like that except that the secondary gas valves with the flex tubing for the pilot light has been removed due to the addition of the glow igniters. I've also since moved my BCS to being under the stand, but that's not anything you'd see in pics anyways.
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How did you secure the BCS to the enclosure frame? I thought about using a strap of thin gauge tin that I could bend to make a strap that could be screwed into the enclosure panel but wanted to see if there is a better approach.

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