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Old 09-21-2011, 08:45 PM   #1
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I have a local manufacturer that will build me a replica of the Brew Magic system if I can find all of the specs (dimensions of fittings, plumbing, electrical). I doubt this is just out there publicly, but I'm wondering where I would start?

I've spent weeks researching RIMS,HERMS, and I've looked at enough brew rig pictures and setups to make my head spin I've decided that if I can just "clone" the Brew Magic, then that's what I want. I know I can save money because this place will build it for free and I can buy kegs from a distributor here for $30/piece.

If you were in this position, you weren't mechanically inclined enough to design your own rig, how would you proceed?

I've pulled all the specs that are available on Sabco site, but does anyone else have more to share or ideas?? Thanks!

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well you lucky guy you.

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well you lucky guy you.
lol. thanks. only lucky if I can figure out a way to get them the specs.
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IF it was me, I would look at the information readily available and then alter it to fit my process/mind set. I can usually figure things out and rough design them (or get the design across to those that can make the designs) without too much difficulty.

IMO the issue with trying to clone a commercially available item (check to see if it has patents on it) is you can get into serious trouble doing so. IMO you're going to be better off designing one that incorporates features/functions you like from the other, plus has some of your own in it.

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I think you need to outline your process. For example, will you gravity drain the BK to the fermentor or perhaps you want to pump through a plate chiller and recirculate. If you plan to pump the the Brew-Magic's design is needlessly high. You need a ladder to use that thing. I designed a stand similar to the Sabco but only inches from the ground. I could pull some measurements if you'd like. Basically all you needs to know are the dimensions of your kettles, comfortable work heights, and any clearance issues underneath. I don't think Sabco will come after you for a similar design however.

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Similar should be safe, but an outright clone (as mentioned in the OP) and all bets are off.

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Similar should be safe, but an outright clone (as mentioned in the OP) and all bets are off.
I hear what you're saying. It wouldn't be exact, but enough detail for the folks building it to understand the concept of all the pieces.
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I think you need to outline your process. For example, will you gravity drain the BK to the fermentor or perhaps you want to pump through a plate chiller and recirculate. If you plan to pump the the Brew-Magic's design is needlessly high. You need a ladder to use that thing. I designed a stand similar to the Sabco but only inches from the ground. I could pull some measurements if you'd like. Basically all you needs to know are the dimensions of your kettles, comfortable work heights, and any clearance issues underneath. I don't think Sabco will come after you for a similar design however.
Thanks. I would love to look at your measurements if you're willing. I guess I'm not concerned with definitely having the Brew Magic system, but I would love to find a 100% complete design with specs, for a system that someone has built that they absolutely love.
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I think you need to outline your process. For example, will you gravity drain the BK to the fermentor or perhaps you want to pump through a plate chiller and recirculate. If you plan to pump the the Brew-Magic's design is needlessly high. You need a ladder to use that thing. I designed a stand similar to the Sabco but only inches from the ground. I could pull some measurements if you'd like. Basically all you needs to know are the dimensions of your kettles, comfortable work heights, and any clearance issues underneath. I don't think Sabco will come after you for a similar design however.
Wow. I just looked at your system. That's amazing. I would be most appreciative of any specs and tips you could share. You can PM me if it's easier or I can send you my email. Nice setup man.
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Thanks. I would love to look at your measurements if you're willing. I guess I'm not concerned with definitely having the Brew Magic system, but I would love to find a 100% complete design with specs, for a system that someone has built that they absolutely love.
I have a BM and I think it's great. But if I were to build or have one built, there would be so many things I would change.
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