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Old 06-12-2012, 01:38 PM   #1021
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klyph, Ya, I know I missed the details DOH

stlbeer, More than ready to help out. This is the best home brew site out there and my first stop when I need info. It's great that everyone is willing to help the electrically challenged folks like me.

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Old 06-12-2012, 04:23 PM   #1022
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Greg,
Thanks for getting the kinks worked out on the PID. I have the same one and should be testing my RIMS this weekend. With the info you found out and the great help from HBT it should help me immensely.

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Old 06-12-2012, 06:27 PM   #1023
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David,

Just so everyone knows what worked for me:

All the parts I used are from the original thead except that the PID is the 4352 and not the 4342 since the 4352 is set up for the SSR.

The thermocouple is the one from omega. The Omega web site shows a 12 inch and I called them to get it made into a 4". Took two weeks to get. After looking at the Auberins site I could have purchased it from them.

In the end the PID is set (kept) at the factory settings except of course for the temp.

I set my temp to 160. Brought the temp of the water to 158 adjusted the flow for brew day and turned on the heater. The PID brought the temp up to 160 and kept it there no problem.

Then I let the water cool to 158 and put it into Auto Tune. It did it's thing and was done in less than 15 min. Worked great and temps are holding great.

I think what I did in the begining was to mess with some of the factory settings. Even when I thought I had them set to Factory I still had the A-M setting at 0 and it should have been at 2. ( as pointed out to me and I missed it DOH )

Bottom line is it was operator error.

I hope my exeriance helps others and I really do apprcieate the support offered on this board. Can't wait to return from Fl to try it out. I have a 10 gl batch of Blue Moon clone ready to brew for my wife.

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Old 06-12-2012, 06:38 PM   #1024
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I have a 10 gl batch of Blue Moon clone ready to brew for my wife.

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I am so jealous of your planned Blue Moon. That is just plainly an awesome beer that I frequently order at restaurants whenever I can.

I'm also really pleased that you have gotten your setup working properly.

You no longer need luck at this point so I wish you great success.

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Old 06-12-2012, 08:40 PM   #1025
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Thanks P-J. This will be the second batch of BM clone and my wife really likes it even though I drink most of it. I have a Kirin clone just ready to drink now. I tried it last night and have to say I like it. First beer using rice as one of the ingredients. One of the reason's I put together the RIMS is because the rubber maid mash tun will not hold it all per the recipe. Now that I can use the RIMS in the Keggle Mash Tun I'll be able to do the step infushion easier.

I just recieved my PICO style false bottom today and will install when I get home.

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Old 07-01-2012, 02:51 AM   #1026
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I'm moving to a tri-clover attachment on my Rims tube. I had some scorching today for the first time. I think it's because I started using the RIMS to bring the temp of the mash up to 168 for a mashout. Recirculating to clean it just wasn't getting her done.

Anyway, it seems like the element I have, the one from the parts list at the beginning of this post, may be too short. The tri-clover adds some depth to the attachment, I think. So I'm looking for a replacement that's longer, maybe straight. I have about 12" between the end of the tube and the probe.

Here's the element I have. Any suggestions for a new one? Many thanks, guys.

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Old 07-01-2012, 09:22 PM   #1027
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I used a cam fitting on my RIMs and I've been really happy with it. I think it is as effective as a tri clover but a little cheaper. I have a parts list somewhere if any one wants me to dig it up.

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Old 07-02-2012, 01:43 PM   #1028
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I used the same element and was plagued with scorching any time I used the RIMS to bring the temp of the tun up. I don't claim to understand all of the math behind it, but you need a longer element. Spread the heat over more surface area, i.e. reduce the heat density. CAMCO makes the same element in a 5500 watt version for about $20. That said, I brewed two batches with the 5500W element with no issues. I then used it to do a wheat and had a lot of scorching. 120 -> 143, then 143 -> 157, finally 157 -> 168. I did reduce the flow because I was worried about a stuck mash. So this could have been operator error.

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Old 07-03-2012, 08:59 PM   #1029
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I used the same element and was plagued with scorching any time I used the RIMS to bring the temp of the tun up. I don't claim to understand all of the math behind it, but you need a longer element. Spread the heat over more surface area, i.e. reduce the heat density. CAMCO makes the same element in a 5500 watt version for about $20. That said, I brewed two batches with the 5500W element with no issues. I then used it to do a wheat and had a lot of scorching. 120 -> 143, then 143 -> 157, finally 157 -> 168. I did reduce the flow because I was worried about a stuck mash. So this could have been operator error.
I wound up ordering THIS ELEMENT.

Hopefully it'll perform better. I was getting such great efficiency doing a mash out. Hopefully the remove and clean of the element will also help.

I'd also read that this particular element may not even be LWD. It seems these were "changed" by the manufacturer some time ago to make them "better." I think that's buried somewhere in this RIMS thread.
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Old 07-14-2012, 03:51 AM   #1030
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There was some discussion a bit ago in this thread about how to cap off the element ends and protect you (and them). I had previously been using a PVC cap, grommet, and some waterproof electrical tape. I think I even uploaded a picture some pages ago.

I just came across this stuff called Sugru. It's Air-curable moldable silicone rubber. you basically mold it like clay and once it cures (24 hours) it is heat resistant to about 360F and remains waterproof, solid, though slightly flexible. It feels kinda like the rubber for a bicycle tire. This stuff costs a bit but once I got it I fell in love with it. I've since found all sorts of ways to use it within my build and ended up having to go and order a few more packs.

Here's a pic of the package and the results:

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