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Old 01-25-2012, 03:57 PM   #1
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Hello,

I'm using the big hurricane buner to run my setup, off of natural gas, and love it, except I control my flame via the brass orifce, which is threaded directly into the burner itself.

Obvioulsy, it gets rather warm in the area. Has anyone run a pipe from the burner, say 12", then hooked the orifice up at the end of it (Basically putting the orifice 12" away from the burner)?

Would this work? Or do I need to keep the orifice where it is and install a ball valve at the end of teh 12" pipe?


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Old 01-25-2012, 05:57 PM   #2
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Hello,

I'm using the big hurricane buner to run my setup, off of natural gas, and love it, except I control my flame via the brass orifce, which is threaded directly into the burner itself.

Obvioulsy, it gets rather warm in the area. Has anyone run a pipe from the burner, say 12", then hooked the orifice up at the end of it (Basically putting the orifice 12" away from the burner)?

Would this work? Or do I need to keep the orifice where it is and install a ball valve at the end of teh 12" pipe?


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Not sure about the 12" pipe, hopefully someone else will chime in who's tried it. I just wanted to say that you should use a needle valve for flow control instead of a ball valve.
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i use a ball valve. it works well for my 18 tip jet burner

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Old 01-25-2012, 06:39 PM   #4
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Not sure about the 12" pipe, hopefully someone else will chime in who's tried it. I just wanted to say that you should use a needle valve for flow control instead of a ball valve.
Why? I know nothing about valves, school me.
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You cannot relocate the orifice. That will not work. The hole where it is at ensures proper air mixture and circulation.

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I use NG with ball valve 15-20in from 23 tip burner and it's working just fine

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A Ball Valve will work its just a very coarse adjustment. A needle valve is a fine adjustment and easier to set correctly. That's all as far as I know. I have natural gas ball valves and they adjust fine, but I have used the needle valve and there definitely more adjustability.. hope that helps

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Why? I know nothing about valves, school me.
drkwoods took the words outta my mouth:

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A Ball Valve will work its just a very coarse adjustment. A needle valve is a fine adjustment and easier to set correctly. That's all as far as I know. I have natural gas ball valves and they adjust fine, but I have used the needle valve and there definitely more adjustability.. hope that helps
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How the feck are you adjusting the flame with the orifice?

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A Ball Valve will work its just a very coarse adjustment. A needle valve is a fine adjustment and easier to set correctly. That's all as far as I know. I have natural gas ball valves and they adjust fine, but I have used the needle valve and there definitely more adjustability.. hope that helps
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You cannot relocate the orifice. That will not work. The hole where it is at ensures proper air mixture and circulation.
Ok, so a valve on the other end of the pipe then?

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How the feck are you adjusting the flame with the orifice?
The orifice supplied to me is a ball valve as well, seems to work ok.
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