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Old 12-23-2011, 09:34 PM   #901
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add another to the list. spent the last week on and off reading, couldn't stop. saw the small brewery building in the beginning then I looked towards the end saw the large new building and i had to read the whole thread to see how you got there. great read, I am truly inspired.
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Old 12-23-2011, 11:47 PM   #902
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I'll second that. Reading this thread was an epiphany. I'll confess that at first, my thoughts were "this is bull****, there's no friggin' way anyone is professionally brewing in THAT."

I stand corrected, and I apologize. The audacity of your plan made me a doubter, but now I believe! As I went through the pages and read of your successes and minor setbacks and challenges, I actually began to think "hell, if he can start small and do it, why couldn't I?"

I thank you for giving me that spark of hope that someday, I might be able to turn my hobby into a business. I'm going to have to do SOMETHING when I retire from the FD, because of you, that may just be opening a nano/microbrewery and tasting room.

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Old 12-24-2011, 12:21 AM   #903
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You should see what I professionally brew in, looks like someone stuck me in a closet LOL

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Old 12-24-2011, 02:48 AM   #904
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You run a nanobrewery? I thought you would.ve been in IT. How bout some pics of your setup?
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Old 12-24-2011, 01:02 PM   #905
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You run a nanobrewery? I thought you would.ve been in IT. How bout some pics of your setup?
I'm actually in law enforcement, used to be in IT but it wasn't my true calling. Like Boss I maintain my day job. Come sometime in March 2012 my brews will be hitting a few bars here as well as two gas stations. Hopefully expanding out as it seems to be a hit in all my test feelers.

I will be giving pics this spring, right now its nothing to look at. Just a kitchen and a crammed shed, and a few closets lol

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I will be giving pics this spring, right now its nothing to look at. Just a kitchen and a crammed shed, and a few closets lol
Roger that.

I'm intrigued by the business aspect of brewing as a serial entreprenuer. I've had some wins but some turkeys as well but all tech related. I want to leave tech and do something that pays the bills until retirement in twenty or so years.
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This is very inspiring as everyone else has stated, I've always read forums full of pessimist haters who say you can't start this small but it makes the most sense. Obviously now we can all point to Dogfish Head but haters still abound. It took me stumbling upon a tiny brewpub in Santiago to get me looking into this, and by tiny I mean 8 seats. Of course they have much more lax regulations (no stupid 3 tier system) but still corporate piss lagers to compete against.

Since I've been recently inspired I've decided to start a brewpub in a similar fashion as you (glorified home brew setup) and see where it takes me. Maybe this is the beginning of a go-pro revolution.

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This is very inspiring as everyone else has stated, I've always read forums full of pessimist haters who say you can't start this small but it makes the most sense. Obviously now we can all point to Dogfish Head but haters still abound.
I don't think it's so much haters as realists. The cold hard facts dictate you are much more likely to fail in business than succeed in business; doesn't matter the industry. Can a person start a nanobrewery and be successful over time? Yes. Very few actually make it.

A brewpub like DFH is an entirely different business model than a straight up brewery of any size. When your only product is beer, that changes things and makes it harder. Beer is a volume business.
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IIRC DFH began as only beer, their Brewpub was a later development. But I never finished his book so I could be wrong. Personally, I hate their beer but I have a great deal of respect for Sam and he has a lot to teach us.

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I'm intrigued by the business aspect of brewing as a serial entreprenuer. I've had some wins but some turkeys as well but all tech related. I want to leave tech and do something that pays the bills until retirement in twenty or so years.
I wouldn't rely on it to pay the bills lol, not for a long time anyway. If you want to work at an $80k a year level and not get paid a dime for it, and shell out money all the time, this is for you
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If it was entirely a volume business microbreweries wouldn't be in business and everyone but us homebrewers would be drinking macro backwash. I think the amount of success Hoss has had very early on shows that there's more to it. Of course breweries will come and go and many will get started off on the wrong foot, but my main complaint with the 'haters' are the ones that aren't constructive to up and comers saying you need a million or two to get started and that the paperwork is impossible. The haters are usually cynic non-pro brewers who can't think small.

Also it does vary quite a bit state to state, it's much easier for a nano to get started if they can get retail dollars on their brew. In Cali Hoss is very lucky that they're brew friendly (as compared to other states and not to the wine lobby of course), if breweries are in a similar situation I think it's the best way to get an operation going. I'm in Chicago looking to do a tiny brewpub to be able to sell and distribute my beer which leaves me with a lot of room to grow if the market is right. I think any start up brewery that can should look into having a taproom so they can make money skipping the middle men of the industry.

Someday I'd love to get back out to California and try that wee heavy.
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