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Old 10-22-2009, 10:37 PM   #11
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i never concidered something like this. i use propane outside but this looks interesting.

I have propane and dont mind it, should i concider switching to this?

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Old 10-22-2009, 10:38 PM   #12
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Anybody done any calculations on the cost to operate a heat stick versus the cost of using propane? The heatstick seems like a cool idea, but I already have a propane burner that brings me a 7-8 gallon boil pretty quickly (not sure, maybe 15 minutes?). So, I guess the biggest thing for me would be whether, dollar for dollar, the heatstick would be cheaper to use than the propane. Of course this will all have to do with the costs of electricity, amount of propane used (and cost per tank), etc., so there probably isn't a "final" answer. So, putting my question another way: how much electricity do these things really use to bring an average 6-7-8 gallon pot to a boil? Any thoughts or ideas?

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Old 10-22-2009, 11:44 PM   #13
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Just a for instance calculation.

calculated kilowatts X electric rate X hours.

4500 watt

4.5kw X .09 (9 cent per kilowatt) X 1 hours = $0.405 per hour

Pretty cheap.

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I can run my entire electric brew rig for a full session for $1.13. That is heating strike water, running the HERMS, pump and 90 minute electric boil.

Pretty cheap.

It used to cost me $16 to fill my propane tank. I would have to get 14 sessions out of a single propane tank for propane to EQUAL what it costs to run electric.

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Old 10-22-2009, 11:55 PM   #15
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Man, I'm going to have to look into building one of these. I've been considering my options for the upcoming winter. Im on the 12th story of an apartment building overlooking Lake Erie. Lets just say its not the best place to brew on a cold winter day.

I was considering smaller 3 gallon batches on my stove. This might just do the trick though!

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Old 10-23-2009, 12:19 AM   #16
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I went with a right angle heat stick and it was a good investment. It got me OUT of the kitchen permantly.

I used to heat mash and sparge water on several pots on our ceramic electric stove... way inefficeint and took a long time.

I use the heatstick to bring my mash water up to temp and while mashing heat the sparge water.

After that it helps bring the wort to a boil real quick to suplement my propane burner.



wow, I really like the idea of using the elbow pipe at the top so you can just hook it over your brew kettle. Mine is just straight but I didn't have any problems with the heating element resting on the bottom of the kettle. Still, I like yours and will probably do something like that when I make my second.
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Old 10-23-2009, 12:46 AM   #17
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Man, I'm going to have to look into building one of these. I've been considering my options for the upcoming winter. Im on the 12th story of an apartment building overlooking Lake Erie. Lets just say its not the best place to brew on a cold winter day.

I was considering smaller 3 gallon batches on my stove. This might just do the trick though!

Perhaps consider building two.
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I have a really cool spreadsheet that I got from This Site, but I can't seem to find it there anymore. It calculates the time required to heat the water as well as the cost, once you enter the required information. Maybe he is in the middle of transferring it over to his new site.

A quick Yahoo search did find it Here. I just thought that I would credit the guy that I believe wrote the spreadsheet. I believe he is active on the Northern Brewer forums, and that may be where I initially got the spreadsheet.

If you don't have Excel, download OpenOffice, It can open excel files.

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So, I finally have a picture of the heatstick I built. Like I said above, it looks just like the one here: http://www.cedarcreeknetworks.com/heatstick.htm

I wanted to mention something else for those of you thinking about building one. I am by no means a savvy person when it comes to electricity. I don't know very much about it but had no problem building this. Just follow the instruction and make sure you read all of his tips and warnings, TWICE!.

Here it is:

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I have propane and dont mind it, should i concider switching to this?
Absolutely IMO...I have a beautiful propane burner, that has been gathering dust for two years now. Electric elements allow me to brew in my basement 10' from where I ferment.

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