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Old 01-10-2012, 03:42 AM   #11
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Well first of all, yes I have brewed 2 years now with the soldered fittings and they are Rock Freekin Solid. Since the Solder is inside the Keg the wort buffers its ability to want to rise above 220F`. (just never fire the Kettle when empty thats BAD!) Same Deal on the HLT.

(As far as Carmelizing or burning sugars in the drain piping (right on the flame) ) On the BK, I resolve this problem by whirlpooling during the entire boil. I have a 90` angle mounted 3/4 of the way up the keggle and return the wort to the BK making it spin down to the drain. My drain in the BK is set 1" above the bottom (dead middle pointing up) so the trub surrounds the drain but doesnt go in it.. I love it! My MLT has no burner under it since the HLT has the heat Exchange. The HLT simply whirlpools the water around the HEX coil while Im mashing through the coil.. It pumps to the top whirlpools all the way down to the bottom drain and prevents any stratification.
Understood. Most of the time people solder the fittings on the outside and my presumption was that would cause problems. Being on the inside is likely a whole different story as you elaborated on.

As for the drain in the BK, that is a pretty creative idea. Using an all electric system, I guess I'm out of the loop when it comes to using gas. Good luck with the remainder of the build.
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Old 01-10-2012, 06:42 PM   #12
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Well I decided to continue to use everything I possibly could from my old Brewstand including the King Cookers. SO I cut the Legs off and made a custom mount added pilots and thermocouples. My first Major fail The KingCookers crank out the BTU's at 30 psi LP. But with Honeywell Furnace Valves I knew I would have to run them at 11"wc. So I figured I would simply drill the single orifice out (like people do with the banjos etc) Here's what I got. I began the drilling proccess and the next page pic is the best I could get, so I scrapped the idea and went with Banjos

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Old 01-10-2012, 06:44 PM   #13
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Here's the test results. this is the best flame I could muster at .5 psi LP after drilling the orifice several times / So I cut these burners out and refabricated mounts for the Banjos. Just too much Yellow flame in my opinion.. I'll simply install these high pressure burners in a new Brew Sculpture that I plan on selling.

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Old 01-10-2012, 07:33 PM   #14
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While Waiting for the Banjo's to arrive from AgriSupply BG-14 HIGH PRESSURE CAST IRON BURNER - Agri Supply I added my Full Lock Casters Colson Swivel Caster with Polyurethane 4" x 1-1/4" Wheel with Top Lock Brake | eBay
and Began fabricating my water filtration built into my rig. I wanted two Stage Charcol filtered Water for my Wort/Mash etc. but I also wanted on demand water for CIP stuff, boil overs etc. Also I want every thing to be a QD using the ProflowDynamics.com SS disconnects. I made the mounts removable from the Cart and spaced with felt washers to keep heat off the plastic. There will eventually be Diamond plate wall between the filters and the burners above it. (at this point the pipes are mixed material, but will all be StainlessSteel when Im done)
The water Filters I got at HomeDepot years ago but the model numbers point to this guy.. http://www.waterfilters.net/Ametek-H...ar-Filter.html

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Old 01-11-2012, 07:40 PM   #15
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The Banjos arrived along with the Honeywell Valves, thermocouples and Standing pilots. this is what I went with.. I drilled and tapped the bottom of the burners so I could allen screw mount the pilot assembly. For all the pipe i used 1/2" Black pipe and fittings from Home Depot

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Old 01-11-2012, 08:31 PM   #16
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Great job!


Happy brewing time as soon as you can!

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Old 01-12-2012, 03:28 AM   #17
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looking good...*subscribed*

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So I began Welding up the 2 Banjo Burners. I made a Bracket for 4" distance flame to Keg bottom. I got some bad information about reducing that to 2" and I redid the brackets.. arrrrg.. it simply doesnt work. theres not enough room for proper combustion of all that gas. So 3rd times a charm im making adjustable brackets with a 2.5, 3 & 4" distance choices.. I will test that and report back..

1/2 in. FIP x 1/2 in. MIP x 36 in. ProCoat Coated Stainless Steel Gas Appliance Connector with Fittings-CSSL54-36 X at The Home Depot

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Subscribed. Very excited about this build. Exactly what I have in the works - except the bottom drain.
Have everything but pilot and gas valves, and control box build.
What orifice and pressure are you running for your banjo burners?
Very nice work, thanks for documenting it!

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What orifice and pressure are you running for your banjo burners?
The orifice I got from Williams, because its exactly the right one for LP Gas controlled by a low pressure Furnace Valve, which flows at 11" wc, approx .5psi. Plus..it fits right in place of the high pressure orifice that comes with the Burner HURRICANE BURNER LPG GAS VALVE @ Williams Brewing
for Valves I got the Honeywell VR8200's
VR8200A2132 - Honeywell VR8200A2132 - 1/2", 24 Vac Standing Pilot Gas Valve
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