Happy HolidaySs Giveaway - Winners Re-Re-Re-Re-Drawn - 24 hours to Claim!

Get your HBT Growlers, Shirts and Membership before the Rush!


Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > DIY Projects > Kegerators and Keezers > the shelves ARE the coolant lines...
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 05-23-2009, 03:58 PM   #1
Budzu
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Posts: 793
Liked 17 Times on 16 Posts

Default the shelves ARE the coolant lines...

Hi all, I just picked up an upright freezer with the hopes of converting to a keezer. Its a nice big unit that I paid 75 dollars for in perfect working order. I was told the shelves are removable but once it had thawed I realized that each of the 4 shelves in the unit are made up of the actual coolant lines, which run from the top coils against the ceiling of the freezer.

Ugh! I see a few options here...
1. bend each shelf carefully back flat against the back wall
2. Cut and crimp most of the coolant lines off so that only the top coolant line remains (would this work or destroy the fridge?)
3. Build on to the unit and double its size with an insulated cabinet portion so that I have open space to work with

Does anyone have any experience with this type of freezer? Is it ok to cut off >50% of the coolant line and re-crimp the end? There are soldered connections between each of the shelves... these could be unsoldered and sealed up at the site..

Please advise if you can.. I'm losing hope.. this is my second unit toward this project.. the first fridge I got pooped out after a few days, after I had sanded/painted/cut out the internal door segment.

thanks in advance, cheers and happy memorial day!

__________________
Countertop Brutus Budzu-style
Budzu is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-23-2009, 04:02 PM   #2
FlyingHorse
Formerly Bike N Brew
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
FlyingHorse's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Evanston IL
Posts: 1,864
Liked 10 Times on 10 Posts

Default

I did #1.

I wouldn't mess with #2.

I'd weigh the purchase of a new chest freezer against the cost of #3. More efficient, less hassle, possibly cheaper (depending on your buildout plans for the upright).

__________________
No signature required.
FlyingHorse is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-23-2009, 06:39 PM   #3
samc
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Portland OR
Posts: 5,420
Liked 55 Times on 52 Posts
Likes Given: 29

Default

#1 is possible if done carefully - some fail some work - even the slightest pinhole will kill the deal.
#2 is impossible unless you have the ability to recharge the system which would most likely cost you more than you paid for the thing.
#3 as Bike N Brew said ain't worth the time/effort

#4 take it back to the guy who told you the shelves are removable and get your $$$ back.

I would vote for #4 if possible

__________________
samc is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-23-2009, 07:28 PM   #4
ShortSnoutBrewing
Kwanesum Chinook Illahee
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
ShortSnoutBrewing's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 3,266
Liked 12 Times on 11 Posts
Likes Given: 1

Default

Yeah, I've walked away from many a "good deal" when someone told me the shelves were removable. Then I want to go see the fridge/freezer and said no thank you. Take it back (if you can)...

ShortSnoutBrewing is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-23-2009, 10:05 PM   #5
Budzu
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Posts: 793
Liked 17 Times on 16 Posts

Default

At this point I am pretty set on building onto the freezer. If I do, I will end up with a very large open space (the door is quite wide, this will almost end up like a small walk-in cooler). This will allow me the space to chill about 9 kegs. But I figure I can keep it pretty cheap using only insulation board, and covering the sides and top with a cloth sheet rather than painting and trying to blend the insulation with the actual freezer visually. It will give me a good bit more room to work with than even the entire empty freezer itself without shelves. The door hinges will need to be re-drilled and set on the side of the freezer. I know of a few threads here with similar projects so I have the info I need to make sure it seals properly.
I saw this at first as another set-back, but now it seems an opportunity to have a larger keezer than I ever thought! I'll update..
Cheers!

__________________
Countertop Brutus Budzu-style
Budzu is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-24-2009, 03:09 AM   #6
ISLAGI
1 beer short of a sixer
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
ISLAGI's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Frogtown, OH
Posts: 388
Liked 3 Times on 3 Posts
Likes Given: 2

Default

I ended up with the same thing. I ended up popping the clips off the bottom of the shelves, leaving one shelf on top and one above the floor. I got a tubing bender from the HVAC guy at work and used it to put a 90 in the tubes.

If you go that route, bend each of the lengths a little at a time - assuming you have multiple legs on each shelf. Patience and the right tool can yield some decent results. I put a love controller on mine and have a decent lagering chamber.

Good luck!!!

__________________
NARF! POIT! EGAD!
ISLAGI is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 06-02-2009, 01:41 PM   #7
Budzu
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Posts: 793
Liked 17 Times on 16 Posts

Default

Well guys I just finished the cabinet build. It did quite a bit more than double the size, I now have what is nearly a walk-in cooler. This puppy will fit up to 9 kegs on two layers (if and when I do install a shelf) for a total of 18 kegs potentially. It's framed by 2x4 planks and insulated by 2" thick polystyrene. I sealed it up and ran it all night without temp control and now the whole cabinet is well below 30 degrees. 75 dollars for the freezer and around 50-60 for materials (I had some scrap 2x4's) with 2 afternoons of work .. now I have so much more cooling space than I thought I'd ever have
Maybe I can get some pictures up, but I'd like to dress it up a little first, its still showing its gibblies.

Cheers and thanks for all the great info and inspiration from this site!

__________________
Countertop Brutus Budzu-style
Budzu is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 06-02-2009, 01:51 PM   #8
JPicasso
Hackbrewer extraordinaire
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
JPicasso's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Arlington Heights, IL
Posts: 418
Liked 4 Times on 3 Posts

Default

Pics please!

Someone else might be in the same predicament and might be able to use your pics as a guide. The "gibblies" are the best part. (For a DIY project anyways.)

__________________

Brew On

JPicasso is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 06-02-2009, 02:04 PM   #9
Aleforge
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Wentzville, Missouri
Posts: 1,356
Liked 4 Times on 4 Posts
Likes Given: 1

Default

I second the pics!

__________________
PRIMARY - Irish Red
PRIMARY - Apple Bee Cider
PRIMARY - Dunkelweizen
PRIMARY - Orange Blossom Mead

"A man is but the product of his thoughts. What he thinks, he becomes." -- Mahatma Gandhi
Aleforge is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 06-02-2009, 02:06 PM   #10
Budzu
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Posts: 793
Liked 17 Times on 16 Posts

Default

I will add pics, I'll have to borrow a digi cam (these cell phone pictures aren't so hot) and finally subscribe here so I can display them proper. Hopefully this evening I can show off my new "beer tomb"
Only sad part is I only have 7 kegs to put it in.. I'll have to get brewing big time! Maybe that's not so sad..
Also I still should put in laminate flooring.. we all know what happens in a kegerator.. at least in mine. The floor right now is only bare polystyrene.

__________________
Countertop Brutus Budzu-style
Budzu is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply



Quick Reply
Message:
Options
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Anyone ever make Beer Bottle Shelves? celtic_dude Other 17 09-03-2011 03:45 PM
glycol runs-flexible copper lines, or vinyl lines? chainsawbrewing Kegerators and Keezers 18 02-23-2010 04:30 PM
Inline Coolant Chiller - No pond pump required. Bobby_M Chillers and Stir Plates 55 10-22-2009 09:17 PM
RRefrigerator or: How I learned to stop worrying about my cut coolant line RogerMcAllen Kegerators and Keezers 11 07-14-2009 12:59 AM
Kegerator Door Shelves? Cpt_Kirks Equipment/Sanitation 4 10-23-2008 04:31 PM



Newest Threads

LATEST SPONSOR DEALS