Get your HBT Growlers, Shirts and Membership before the Rush!


Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > DIY Projects > Kegerators and Keezers > Help! Nicked Fridge Coil
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 06-08-2013, 10:44 PM   #1
abarnett
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 5 reviews
 
abarnett's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Jenkintown, PA
Posts: 159
Liked 3 Times on 2 Posts
Likes Given: 11

Default Help! Nicked Fridge Coil

I'm one of those guys that can never do a project without some catastrophe or other. I decided to retire my 20 year old keezer because it cost a fortune to run, and would collect an inch of water in the bottom no matter what I tried.

So I got myself a brand new full sized fridge to convert. I decided to put the taps through the side, instead of the door. The pilot holes went fine. I put a probe in there and didn't feel anything. The first full size hole went through fine, and there was nothing but foam in the hole.

The second hole nicked a copper tube right at the edge (just out of reach from where I probed). It hissed and gas came out at pretty good pressure for a while, but no fluid came out.

Questions:
1) Am I going to die from breathing whatever came out? It didn't smell like anything.

2) Is there anything I can do to recover from this? Is the fridge toast, is this fixable, or is this not a problem?

3) If fixable, how do I fix it, or is this something I should pay a professional for? (Any pros on here in the Philly area willing to help in exchange for a case of liquid consideration?)

And my apologies - I'm on my phone, and the search function isn't great. I'd be happy for a pointer over to another thread if this is already covered somewhere else.

__________________
abarnett is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 06-08-2013, 10:49 PM   #2
day_trippr
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Stow, MA
Posts: 11,239
Liked 1387 Times on 1119 Posts

Default

1. Probably no.
2. It's seriously wounded.
3. You'll need a pro, and it'll cost at least a couple hundred bucks to fix.

Sorry...

__________________
day_trippr is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 06-08-2013, 10:57 PM   #3
Johnnyhitch1
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 32 reviews
 
Johnnyhitch1's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: SiX-ThReE-OnE, NY
Posts: 2,074
Liked 232 Times on 194 Posts
Likes Given: 3434

Default

Day tripper is right. You made a big boo boo.

That gas coming out was refrigerant gas, most likely R134

The line will have to be replaced, costing hundreds.

Sorry boss!

__________________
^~~ "Like" it, Ill Give you beer ~~^
(({Brewing for the Movement Within}))

Primary: Kicking Cans DIPA, ECY20 Golden sour.
Kegged: Conan the Brown, OBS (Oatmeal brett stout)
Aging: Flanders Red w/ ECY02, All out Brett.
BOTTLES:

Cider: Grapfelwine, Apfelwine, Cranfelwine, Applejack
Beer: NZ Brett (BD:9/16/12)
Mead: Blueberry-lemon, Raspberry-Lime, Habenero, POM, Traditional.
Cellar: Maple Whiskey Barrel Stout, ST Pumking Clone
Johnnyhitch1 is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 06-08-2013, 11:56 PM   #4
abarnett
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 5 reviews
 
abarnett's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Jenkintown, PA
Posts: 159
Liked 3 Times on 2 Posts
Likes Given: 11

Default

Thanks :-(

I foresee some snickering at my expense at the appliance store.

__________________
abarnett is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 06-10-2013, 03:59 PM   #5
Junkster
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: North Central, Ohio
Posts: 508
Liked 30 Times on 21 Posts
Likes Given: 3

Default

The same thing happened to a guy in my adult refrigeration class years ago. We retrofitted a condenser coil on the back of the cabinet from another old fridge, recharged it and got it working again. That may be an inexpensive option if you have a trade school in the area that will do the work as an educational opportunity.

__________________
Junkster is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 06-10-2013, 05:20 PM   #6
jdeere_man
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: NW MO
Posts: 11
Liked 2 Times on 2 Posts

Default

Why couldn't you enlarge the hole you cut (carefully), solder the line, and recharge the freon?

__________________
jdeere_man is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 06-10-2013, 05:21 PM   #7
Monster Mash
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Castaic, CA
Posts: 1,322
Liked 86 Times on 67 Posts
Likes Given: 12

Default

I know it's too late now but if you are going to drill the side of a fridge always drill from the inside!! Even if you drill a 1/8" hole on the outside there is a good chance you will hit a line.

Your fridge will cost more to fix then replace.

__________________
My 1BBL Brewery Pics
Monster Mash is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 06-10-2013, 05:42 PM   #8
Bookworm
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: , Iowa
Posts: 147
Liked 34 Times on 27 Posts
Likes Given: 16

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jdeere_man View Post
Why couldn't you enlarge the hole you cut (carefully), solder the line, and recharge the freon?
That is what I would do. Have the person recharging the freon leak check the repair. They should have a tool made just for that.

Edit: The small freezer I used had a schematic that showed the location of the lines. I used that to avoid drilling through one. Might not hurt to see if you can find one for your fridge.

I see a lot of questions about if breathing around a freon leak is going to kill you. Unless you are huffing it out of a bag or evaporating large amounts in an unventilated space breathing a little it is not going to be a problem. It can be a freezing hazard though if you get the liquid on your hands.
__________________
Bookworm is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 06-10-2013, 05:45 PM   #9
Bookworm
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: , Iowa
Posts: 147
Liked 34 Times on 27 Posts
Likes Given: 16

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Monster Mash View Post
I know it's too late now but if you are going to drill the side of a fridge always drill from the inside!! Even if you drill a 1/8" hole on the outside there is a good chance you will hit a line.
I do not understand how this would make a difference. If the line is in the path of the drill bit you would hit it anyway. Right?
__________________
Bookworm is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 06-10-2013, 06:05 PM   #10
day_trippr
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Stow, MA
Posts: 11,239
Liked 1387 Times on 1119 Posts

Default

Coils in the sides of a fridge are going to be condenser (hot side) tubing, which would be located on the outside of the insulation between liner and exterior skin. So, if you cautiously drilled a small hole just through the liner, then probed through the insulation, you can find the tubing before you stick a drill bit through it...

Cheers!

__________________
day_trippr is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply



Quick Reply
Message:
Options
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
HERMS coil / CFC / SS coil questions... awarner322 General Beer Discussion 0 04-24-2013 01:29 AM
help with amana fridge coil design Brewer#19 Bottling/Kegging 6 10-07-2012 10:08 PM
Immersion Coil Or Beer Fridge For Lager Fermentation CrankyBeaverBrewery Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 5 02-17-2012 06:47 AM
Fridge coil layout (top/bottom type) MMW Kegerators and Keezers 4 05-06-2009 10:44 PM
HLT coil Dwain Equipment/Sanitation 5 04-09-2009 04:04 PM



Newest Threads

LATEST SPONSOR DEALS