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Old 03-27-2013, 05:37 PM   #1
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I'm looking for a wine, either commercially available to purchase or an inexpensive recipe, that tastes nice when young.

In Russian folktales they have a "strong green wine" whose "strength was magical in that it was not acquired by keeping, but was always the same"

I'm interpreting that to mean that it was a wine ready to drink soon after fermentation, and did not need aging to produce quality flavors.

I know a low alcohol wine will generally be ready to drink before a high alcohol wine. While I don't need a truly high alcohol wine I don't think anything under 12.5% could ever be described as strong.

Is there a style or brand that is generally better young?
Can someone recommend a grape wine that is good when young?

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I have just made my 2nd batch of Pino Grisio White Wine. On bottling day, I sampled it and it was great.

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I think that a key would be to keep it non complex, and very low ABV. Something like and fruity, with an ABV of about 8% or less would probably taste really good without aging. Once you get to 10% or so, there is a risk of the wine being a bit "hot" or boozy and it would need some aging.

Oak also needs time to mellow, and so do fruits with lots of acid or tannins.

Some fruits to try would be apples or crabapples, blueberries, and I like the idea of a low ABV dandelion wine.

Sweetening a wine also means less aging, as the sweetness covers a few flaws and means a good wine without depth.

After fermentation is done (about 3 weeks), if the wine is clear it could be stabilized and then sweetened and be pretty good immediately.

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Skeeter Pee(http://skeeterpee.com/) comes in at around 10% and is ready right away. It taste good, cheap, and is ready fast!

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Yooper, I was hoping you would answer, but...
The wine needs to be a grape wine over 12.5%

Thanks for the info about sweetening though.

The wine will be mixed equal parts (1:1:1) with a sweet mead and a beer (probably a rye ale).

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Yooper, I was hoping you would answer, but...
The wine needs to be a grape wine over 12.5%

Thanks for the info about sweetening though.

The wine will be mixed equal parts (1:1:1) with a sweet mead and a beer (probably a rye ale).
Your best bet for a young wine is a white wine or a light body red. How soon do you need it? Most of mine start tasting pretty good 3 months after fermentation started.
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Yooper, I was hoping you would answer, but...
The wine needs to be a grape wine over 12.5%

Thanks for the info about sweetening though.

The wine will be mixed equal parts (1:1:1) with a sweet mead and a beer (probably a rye ale).
Anything over 12.5% will need time to mellow and not be hot/harsh. But mixing it with mead and beer? No clues on what to say about that.
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mixing it with mead and beer? No clues on what to say about that.
I'm with you!!!
But it's a drink from a 1916 book, telling stories from the late 900s. I'm just going to try and make it taste as good as possible within the restraints of the accounts.
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Your best bet for a young wine is a white wine or a light body red. How soon do you need it? Most of mine start tasting pretty good 3 months after fermentation started.
3 months sounds fine to me.

Would a Welch's white grape juice wine work? Or do you think I need to buy a wine kit?
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Is there a style or brand that is generally better young?
Can someone recommend a grape wine that is good when young?
Check out Beaujolais Nouveau if you are looking specifically for a grape wine. Its only available in the fall, November I think, but is prized specifically as being young, generally from harvest to glass in less than 8 weeks (and around 12%). Low in tannins, as expected, very fruity and quite good.

It would be nearly impossible to reproduce, and Welch's would not work. Very wrong type of grape. They make some 1 month wine kits (Prestige, Cornucopia, off the top of my head) which aren't very good, but are OK. If 3 months is OK, I'd get a decent kit. WineExpert and Heritage Estates are good at 3-4 months. they get better with time, but they are pretty good young.
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3 months sounds fine to me.

Would a Welch's white grape juice wine work? Or do you think I need to buy a wine kit?
I mad a wine recently that I think was good at 30 days personally. I am sure it will smooth out over 5 - 6 months and even more so after a year but it will not last that long lol. My recipe was this:

4 cans of Welch's White grape peach concentrate.
1 TBS black tea (Stash brand Earl Grey)
1 tsp DAP
1/2 tsp yeast energizer
1/2 tsp pectic enzyme
Water to a gallon
Yeast: Lalvin 71b

I am sure you could just use the Welch's White grape concentrate and follow the same recipe. I have not tried this without the white grape peach so can't say for sure on how it will be. Starting gravity should be 1.08 - 1.095. It should ferment dry in no later than2 weeks at room temp. Throw the gallon in the fridge after that and this was crystal clear in another couple weeks. I just bottled strait off the lees and had 4 perfect wine bottles. This recipe is good dry but if you wanted you could stabilize and back sweeten a bit.
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