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Old 05-23-2009, 05:46 PM   #1
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Default Welch's Grape Concentrate and Grape Concentrate Cocktail

Hi All.... I just joined because I was interested in making wine from Welch's
grape juice concentrate. My ingredients were picked up in a few trips to
the grocery store and that is where I screwed up. I picked up 4 cans of
the grape juice concentrate on the first trip. On the second trip I grabbed
6 cans of the Welch's Grape Cocktail Concentrate. Now I have a 5 gallon
batch of this in a 6 1/2 gallon glass carboy. Did I really screw up using
the cocktail concentrate?

Tom
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Old 05-24-2009, 12:36 PM   #2
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You're probably ok. From what I seem to remember from the strange US packaging laws, a "cocktail" is something less than pure juice and can include other ingredients, most likely more sugar and water. As long as you took gravity readings and you know where you began, you should be ok.

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Old 05-24-2009, 12:43 PM   #3
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Here's the ingredients list from a welch's grape juice cocktail:

Filtered Water, Grape Juice, Grape Juice from Concentrate, Calcium Gluconate, Malic Acid, Sodium Citrate, Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C), Calcium Lactate, Potassium Metabisulfite, Sucralose (Splenda Brand), Acesulfame Potassium. No Artificial Flavors Or Colors Added.

I'm not positive, but some of those extra ingredients not found in the regular juice may be preservatives which would inhibit fermentation. Whenever buying juice I try to be sure it has nothing but water, concentrate, and ascorbic acid just to be on the safe side(these are the only ingredients in the non-cocktail welch's grape juice).

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Old 05-24-2009, 05:00 PM   #4
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Well, the Potassium Metabisulfite is certainly a preservative and the Sucralose may impart some off flavors but since you've already begun, might as well see it through. If it's fermenting the K-meta shouldn't have hurt it much.

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Old 05-27-2009, 06:01 AM   #5
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I'd worry more about the Sodium Citrate, Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C). I have used both to stabalize wine in past.

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Old 05-27-2009, 06:25 PM   #6
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The sucralose suggests that you bought diet or light or reduced calorie juice cocktail. Which means the sugar content on those cans is way down, so you're not going to get much alcohol from the cans of cocktail.

But as summersolstice said, "As long as you took gravity readings and you know where you began, you should be ok."

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I've recently made the same mistake. How did the batch turn out? Mine seems to be fermenting just fine, but then again i'm only a week into the ferment.

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Old 01-22-2013, 06:47 PM   #8
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So what kind of yeast did you use. What is usually the abv on something like this?

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Old 01-24-2013, 05:48 AM   #9
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I am also new to the wine making myself ,tonight i start a 5 gal better bottle out of welchs white grape juice concentrate the receipe I made was /5 -12oz. Cans of concentrate,10lbs of sugar ,15 oz. of golden raisins ,10 tsp of acid blend, 5 -1/2 tsp of petric enzyme,5 tsp of yeast nutrient and 5 packs of fleischmanns highly active yeast i started the yeast until it had about an inch of foam built up dumped it in the mix and dawm it has just takin off .....I guess my question is how do you think I did and do you have any helpful words if advice?

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Old 01-24-2013, 05:49 AM   #10
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Oh and I stuck a airlock on it should I be worried?

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