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Old 01-22-2011, 09:31 PM   #11
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I have to ask, how does wine taste that is fermented from welch's juice? I thought a great deal of wine quality is about the quality of the grapes and I'm surprised to see grocery store juice being used. Is it any good?


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I have to ask, how does wine taste that is fermented from welch's juice? I thought a great deal of wine quality is about the quality of the grapes and I'm surprised to see grocery store juice being used. Is it any good?
Store juice can come from many orchards and vineyards from around the world depending on what season it is. There isn't a technical consistency from month to month but yet it's already pressed, filtered and ready to go.

Sidenote: Welch's uses Lot Genealogy which tracks lot numbers to vineyards. I would be interested in the cross reference if anybody comes across it.
http://www.sierraatlantic.com/newsroom/press/sierra_atlantic_welch_pr_10_09.php



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It makes ok table wine. Not good or great, but ok.
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It makes ok table wine. Not good or great, but ok.
Yep.

Did you ever drink Mogen David? It's a sweetened concord wine. It's not very good, but it'll give you an idea of what concord wine tastes like. I don't sweeten mine, as I like it tart.

I make wine out of catawba grapes, too, and all kinds of stuff. Just like a bottle of pinot noir doesn't really taste like grapes, tomato wine (to be extreme!) doesn't really taste like tomatoes, if that makes sense.

Some table grapes don't make decent wine at all. But some aren't bad. The thing is, table grapes aren't bred for wine so they don't have enough natural sugar in them and they may be quite a bit more acidic.

So you can't expect a bottle of 2007 cab franc from a jug of Welch's- but you can make a very nice hooch, or a very drinkable table wine with just a bit of extra ingredients.
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I actually just transfered my two gallon batch to seconday yesterday. I used 1:1 ratio of concord and white grape juice. The color is a little darker than blush, more like a white merlot color. Taste isn't bad, it's definitly drinkable, and i cant even choke back a glass of white zin.
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4.5 gal apple juice with 1/2 gal red grape juice and 2 cans of red grape concentrate makes a pretty good grapey blush colored wine. Pretty much no apple flavor.
More details please. Did you let the juice ferment dry, sorbate, then use the concentrate to back sweeten?

This sounds very interesting, as I have a load of apple juice. This could go to making the wife happy, versus frustration over me buying 12 gallons of apple juice when I don't like apfelwein.
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More details please. Did you let the juice ferment dry, sorbate, then use the concentrate to back sweeten?

This sounds very interesting, as I have a load of apple juice. This could go to making the wife happy, versus frustration over me buying 12 gallons of apple juice when I don't like apfelwein.
Ferment with Montrachet or your favorite wine yeast. After it clears (I usually give it 3-4 mo. in primary), prime with some table sugar or dextrose (about 5-6oz) and bottle.

I like it dry. You could try using sorbate and back sweeten, but I have not tried that. If it's too dry for your wife, maybe she'd like it mixed with OJ.


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