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Old 02-13-2007, 06:27 PM   #11
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Well 3 days in, fermentation stalled out completely. I pitched another packet of yeast and it started back bubbling the next day. I'm at day 7 and there are no signs of fermentation whatsoever.

I dunno whats going on. The recipe was 5 gallons of the cider, 2 lbs of dextrose, and Cotes De Blanc for yeast.

Its sitting at around 74 degrees.

Any ideas? Could the cider be using non-fermentable sugars?

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Old 02-13-2007, 07:16 PM   #12
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Well 3 days in, fermentation stalled out completely. I pitched another packet of yeast and it started back bubbling the next day. I'm at day 7 and there are no signs of fermentation whatsoever.

I dunno whats going on. The recipe was 5 gallons of the cider, 2 lbs of dextrose, and Cotes De Blanc for yeast.

Its sitting at around 74 degrees.

Any ideas? Could the cider be using non-fermentable sugars?
I don't know what's going on there- did you have a little sorbate in the cider? I can't imagine why fermentation would stall out on you and then start/stop again with a repitch of yeast, unless there is some sorbate in there. That might explain it. I wouldn't think there were be non-fermentable sugars in there- isn't the sugar in apple juice fructose?

Did you take a hydrometer reading? It could be possible that it completely fermented, I guess. Unlikely, but possible.
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Old 02-13-2007, 07:28 PM   #13
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John, I'm assuming you're realized already that the cider isn't going to have much of a krausen, if any. If you happen to not have a good seal on your fermentation vessel, you might not notice that it's fermenting at all. It's a lot more subdued a fermentation than beers.

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Thanks for the replies... I wasn't expecting much of a krausen. I thought it must be a loose seal on the bung but that doesn't seem to be the case either. I was just winging it so I didn't take a hydrometer reading - but I can tell you from tasting it that its crazy sweet with all that extra dextrose.

I'll take a hydrometer reading this evening (I've been looking for an excuse to use my new thief) and see where its at. I'll also swirl it up again and maybe find somewhere a tad warmer...

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Thanks for the replies... I wasn't expecting much of a krausen. I thought it must be a loose seal on the bung but that doesn't seem to be the case either. I was just winging it so I didn't take a hydrometer reading - but I can tell you from tasting it that its crazy sweet with all that extra dextrose.

I'll take a hydrometer reading this evening (I've been looking for an excuse to use my new thief) and see where its at. I'll also swirl it up again and maybe find somewhere a tad warmer...
Well, you obviously know that if it's crazy sweet, then it's not fermented! I still wonder if you had a bit of sorbate in the juice or some other type of preservative.
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Well, you obviously know that if it's crazy sweet, then it's not fermented! I still wonder if you had a bit of sorbate in the juice or some other type of preservative.
I'll read the label on a jug closer tonight... thanks for the tip.
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Old 02-13-2007, 11:01 PM   #17
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Well, I got home this evening and, after two days of no activity, the airlock is bubbling away faster than I can count! Guess I just rushed judgement on it...

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FYI - I did a batch with just straight apple juice (pasturized from BJ's) and hefeweizen WLP300 yeast, it was done and very clear in 14 days - OG 1.048, FG 1.000 - just around 5% ABV, and SWMBO says it tastes great -- I think it could be sweeter, but it has a nice fruity aroma and is pretty swillable -- I did force carb it, though. Good stuff!

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As an FYI...there were a bunch of people who used the cider with good results. Cider is just unfiltered apple juice.

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Thought I'd revive this to say my concoction turned out really (really) good. It is very dry but goes down smooth...

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