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detlion1643 · 07-20-2012, 01:25 AM

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You should taste it and report back! It sounds pretty good to me. I bet it'd be great in BBQ sauce.

I actually just made a vinegar + barely any ketchup bbq sauce with a tiny bit of paprika and cayenne (first time ever to try a bbq sauce) and the result was a really vinegar-y taste up front for like 1/2 a second, then came some wierd kick in heat, but it wasn't spicy or peppery. After about 2-3 seconds of that, I was like damn, that was good. Got it marinating pulled chicken right now to grill tomorrow :drool:.

On to the wine...
Would it hurt to take a tiny sample in a couple days (so it's been in secondary for a week) and after hit it with a crushed campden, or will the oxygen already had devestating effects? I don't have anything to top with and probably won't be on the verge of buying anything within the coming weeks...

***Yooper*** · 07-20-2012, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by detlion1643

I actually just made a vinegar + barely any ketchup bbq sauce with a tiny bit of paprika and cayenne (first time ever to try a bbq sauce) and the result was a really vinegar-y taste up front for like 1/2 a second, then came some wierd kick in heat, but it wasn't spicy or peppery. After about 2-3 seconds of that, I was like damn, that was good. Got it marinating pulled chicken right now to grill tomorrow :drool:.

On to the wine...
Would it hurt to take a tiny sample in a couple days (so it's been in secondary for a week) and after hit it with a crushed campden, or will the oxygen already had devestating effects? I don't have anything to top with and probably won't be on the verge of buying anything within the coming weeks...

I wouldn't say that it would be very oxidized at this point- but I'd still top it up with a cheap commercial white wine. Or you could try adding sanitized marbles (no splashing, though!) or racking to a smaller container ASAP. Depending on how much headspace you have you could add water, if not too much.

detlion1643 · 07-20-2012, 01:51 AM

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I wouldn't say that it would be very oxidized at this point- but I'd still top it up with a cheap commercial white wine. Or you could try adding sanitized marbles (no splashing, though!) or racking to a smaller container ASAP. Depending on how much headspace you have you could add water, if not too much.

Might take a cup to a cup and a half of water to get it topped off. Doesn't sound like much, but I might just do it and let it sit on the sediment it has left to not water down too much. Thanks for the suggestion! Although, I'll test it before to see the difference!

detlion1643 · 08-01-2012, 09:37 PM

I ended up racking this again tonight, only got a 2 litre right to the brim out of it. I don't think there was 1/4" of lees, but I didn't notice anything floating anymore, so I figured I'll rack and give a test.

OMG, the heat right up front was shocking, since I couldn't smell the heat at all in it. I'm a guy who loves franks red hot (put it on almost everything) and enjoys a fair amount of sriracha (sp?). The minute after I was sweating (although ambient temps inside were around 76ish), but it left a sweet aftertaste. About 5 minutes after the taste in my mouth wasn't hot or dry or sweet, it was an awesome mixture. I hope it all mellows out in time.

I did find 1 seed floating in my new racked container and I'm sure it will fall with time lol... Well, this is the last update on this until it clears and I bottle. I'll update then again!

detlion1643 · 08-27-2012, 01:31 PM

I haven't checked on this at all since the last time I posted. I checked it last night though and it's starting to clear some. Still "blurry" when looking through it, but it is clearing up since the last time.

I did notice some things floating in it, stuff that hasn't fallen to the bottom. I found a seed floating near the top, and some "stringy" looking stuff floating near the bottom. I have not de-gassed nor splashed this yet, so I might splash rack it through a coffee filter soon just to capture the sediment that won't settle and de-gas at the same time.

The smell is still very sweet and onion like, with a hint of heat afterwards. I doubt I'm going to test it when racking, as last time it was too hot and it's only been a month or so. I'm planning to bottle this within a month or 2 and age in bottle for at least 6 months before testing. Might be hard, but no matter what I do, I'll keep tabs here and let everyone know.

***Yooper*** · 08-28-2012, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by detlion1643

I have not de-gassed nor splashed this yet, so I might splash rack it through a coffee filter soon just to capture the sediment that won't settle and de-gas at the same time.

Boy, I sure wouldn't do that. Why would you splash rack it and oxidize it through a coffee filter, if you want a decent product in the end? I just don't understand why you'd ruin it at this point, after all the time and effort.

detlion1643 · 08-28-2012, 11:54 AM

Didn't know a coffee filter would oxidize it, I just wanted to find a way to not get the couple seeds floating around in bottles. It seems like they just won't settle...

I haven't done anything with it yet, just gotta find time. I did pull a little sample though to test on some chicken, and I got a little sweet up front on the chicken from the onion, followed by a mild heat (not as bad as it was sipping). Overall, very worthwhile experiment so far. Will keep it updated when I bottle.

detlion1643 · 09-24-2012, 01:09 PM

Almost been a month since I've updated this thread. On 8/29 I bottled (not filtering) and took a sip. Heat was still too much up front to drink. It's been sitting in a bottle since then.

I opened it on Saturday night and marinated some chicken overnight with some of the wine and salt and pepper. I then cooked it on the stove top instead of the grill so I could add splashes of the wine while it cooked. The whole aroma in the house was awesome, sweet from the onion with a mild hint of 'kick' in the air. The chicken, absolutely amazing. It remained moist throughout (instead of dry that I normally get with grilling). The flavor, sweet with a slight spice on the aftertaste.

This is one I will make again for cooking (but more of it). I'm still not fond of the drinkability of it though, but I love the flavors it imparts...