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12-27-2011, 04:32 AM
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#8691
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Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Originally Posted by nukinfuts29
You get out what you put in. Quality juice leads to quality Apfelwein. Use Montratchet or Nottingham for the yeast.
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Many people are convinced that the cheap juice tends to make better apfelwein, actually. I wondered why that was, but just made it without going too expensive anyways.
However, I recently started buying a higher quality apple juice because it comes in the exact same 1gal jug I've bought from my LHBS... for $1 cheaper. And drinking it has reminded me of the other more expensive apple juices I've had in the past, and I think I might know why so many people swear by the cheaper stuff.
When drinking just the juice, the cheaper stuff invariably seems to have a far more noticeable acidic bite. And my guess is that the greater acidity is more conducive to a great final product.
So I'm going to use this higher quality apple juice to make several 1gal batches (might as well even ferment in the jugs they come in!), and use varying amounts of acid blend (and maybe tannin, too), and a batch with just juice, and compare/evaluate them. Even just coming up with an ideal pH would be nice info to have.
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12-27-2011, 08:33 AM
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#8692
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...is off his meds again
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Pike County, MO
Posts: 1,655
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Originally Posted by Accidic
My yeast are more vigorous in GV than the Motts brand (more absorbable vita C perhaps) but honestly they taste the same to me after.
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That's probably true, but since it only costs $0.40 more to use Mott's over Great Value, why not do it?
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Originally Posted by emjay
Many people are convinced that the cheap juice tends to make better apfelwein, actually. I wondered why that was, but just made it without going too expensive anyways.
However, I recently started buying a higher quality apple juice because it comes in the exact same 1gal jug I've bought from my LHBS... for $1 cheaper. And drinking it has reminded me of the other more expensive apple juices I've had in the past, and I think I might know why so many people swear by the cheaper stuff.
When drinking just the juice, the cheaper stuff invariably seems to have a far more noticeable acidic bite. And my guess is that the greater acidity is more conducive to a great final product.
So I'm going to use this higher quality apple juice to make several 1gal batches (might as well even ferment in the jugs they come in!), and use varying amounts of acid blend (and maybe tannin, too), and a batch with just juice, and compare/evaluate them. Even just coming up with an ideal pH would be nice info to have.
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Hmm....Maybe next week I will start three batches side by side and test it
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12-27-2011, 12:47 PM
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#8693
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 388
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Originally Posted by nukinfuts29
That's probably true, but since it only costs $0.40 more to use Mott's over Great Value, why not do it?
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I have nothing against either really. However, right now i'm running GV @5.5 mos and counting which was only 2.1c an ounce at the time but is now like 2.9 the last time I got juice for the kidlet. Also (and this is only superstition) the last batch I did was more expensive (wanted the jug) and came out terrible. The GV samples have been progressing nicely.
In all fairness tho I would be interested to know who bottles GV AJ. I know their PB is done by peter pan. Their ketchup used to be del monte but now kinda sucks and am not sure who does it now.
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12-27-2011, 02:21 PM
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#8694
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Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Lebanon, IN
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Any reason this wouldn't work for any other type of juice?
I'm currently drinking my first batch, and it was so easy I figured why stick to just apple juice?
Anyone else tried a grape or cranberry? Or am I missing something obvious?
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12-27-2011, 03:08 PM
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#8695
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...is off his meds again
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Pike County, MO
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Originally Posted by Accidic
I have nothing against either really. However, right now i'm running GV @5.5 mos and counting which was only 2.1c an ounce at the time but is now like 2.9 the last time I got juice for the kidlet. Also (and this is only superstition) the last batch I did was more expensive (wanted the jug) and came out terrible. The GV samples have been progressing nicely.
In all fairness tho I would be interested to know who bottles GV AJ. I know their PB is done by peter pan. Their ketchup used to be del monte but now kinda sucks and am not sure who does it now.
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I bet it's Motts, Welches, or Tree Top. Most of that stuff comes off the same line, some gets a GV label.
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Originally Posted by msond
Any reason this wouldn't work for any other type of juice?
I'm currently drinking my first batch, and it was so easy I figured why stick to just apple juice?
Anyone else tried a grape or cranberry? Or am I missing something obvious?
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You can use anything. I have some cranberry juice in now.
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12-27-2011, 08:28 PM
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#8696
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Carrollton, Texas
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Man, I love this stuff....

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Primary 1: Haus Ale
Primary 2: Air
Bottled 1: Edwort's Apfelwein
Bottled 2: Chocolate Oatmeal Stout
Bottled 2: Cranberry Wheat
Kegged 1: Edwort's Haus Ale
Kegged 2: Saison
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12-27-2011, 10:20 PM
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#8697
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Junior Member
Join Date: Dec 2008
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Does it help to ferment it in the dark? The only place I can get darkness is cold about 55-60 degrees.
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12-27-2011, 10:34 PM
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#8698
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Cobleskill, New York
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Sunlight can affect taste. Try wrapping a towel or t-shirt around it to keep it dark.
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12-27-2011, 10:49 PM
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#8699
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...is off his meds again
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Pike County, MO
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I ferment my Apfelwein where it gets sunlight from around noon till dark, no issues.
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12-28-2011, 12:26 AM
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#8700
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Member
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Pontiac, Michigan
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Started my 2nd batch 9 days ago with 8lbs of sugar and its down to 1.000 already from an OG of 1.112
2 packs of Mont....sprinkled on top.....in a bucket with a brew belt.
It tastes good too. Not hot or anything. Just gotta clear out now.
ABV is 14.9% woohoo!
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20 gallon PRIMARY 1 - 15g XTRA HARD SKEETER PEE (13%)
SECONDARY 1 - XTRA HARD Apfelwein (15%) w/fruit
BOTTLED - Bourbon Barrel Porter
KEG 1 - XTRA HARD Apfelwein (15%)
KEG 2 - XTRA HARD Apfelwein (15%)
KEG 3 - XTRA HARD Apfelwein (15%)
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